OT - Model K Roadster with her cloths off

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2014: OT - Model K Roadster with her cloths off
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen on Thursday, November 13, 2014 - 09:47 pm:

Dean is in the process of dismantling the Model K:



















Thanks Dean......


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Trevan - Australia on Thursday, November 13, 2014 - 09:59 pm:

A ''SHE''--OK - IS ''K'' SHORT FOR KATE or KALINA ?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen on Thursday, November 13, 2014 - 10:01 pm:

Bob,

We'll say "Katharine" (one of my girls middle name).

:-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Hjortnaes, Men Falls, WI on Thursday, November 13, 2014 - 10:26 pm:

I think it stands for Kornhusker Kate.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen on Thursday, November 13, 2014 - 10:32 pm:

Big game this weekend, Bucky




Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Townsend ; ^ ) Gresham, Orygun on Thursday, November 13, 2014 - 11:09 pm:

Um, Rob-

If I was you, I wouldn't let Holly go over to Dean's place...

As "Brass Car Guy" would say, I'm just sayin'


Do you have some photos for patterns for the upholstery?

: ^ )

Keith


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen on Thursday, November 13, 2014 - 11:40 pm:

Keith, no problem, I trust both of them....
::-)

The seats on roadsters were traditional button/tuck or straight sided:



(Message edited by Rob on November 13, 2014)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Scott Owens on Friday, November 14, 2014 - 12:32 am:

Rob, Could you post a picture of the transmission when Dean get,s it out? From what I see its plenty beefy to do the job. Thank,s Scott


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Seth - Ohio on Friday, November 14, 2014 - 07:52 am:

I thought you said in an earlier post that Dean was going to re-gap the spark plugs. Perhaps you should have showed him what they look like so he wouldn't have torn down the entire car looking for them! :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bruce Balough on Friday, November 14, 2014 - 08:07 am:

In the photos I can see the similarity in the design between the Model B, K, NRS transmission. The K transmission frame looks a lot beefier then the NRS! Do we know if the design was Henry Fordís or C.H. Wills concept as they are so similar? Bruce


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kenneth W DeLong on Friday, November 14, 2014 - 08:10 am:

Rob,Seeing how i'm too busy hauling corn instead of finding it in Pates book,who made the 640 bodys?? Bud.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen on Friday, November 14, 2014 - 08:14 am:

Scott,

Yes, it's "hell built for stout." In the Ford "Oral Histories" there are discussions about trying different types of transmissions for the K, including a sliding gear, and settling on the large planetary. As I've said all along, if you are able to tolerate a two speed in a Model T (and all of us on this forum are) you would love it coupled with a six cylinder, high torque engine.

Denny, I know. The guy gets a new set of wrenches, and look what happens. Who knows where it will stop?

Bruce, I'm not sure who designed the Ford transmission initially. The one feature that I'm aware of, that is different from the "K" transmission and the other Ford models, wider brake band. We'll see that again, in 1926.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen on Friday, November 14, 2014 - 08:17 am:

Bud,

Hope it's yielding well. Moisture? We're wrapping up harvest around here (eastern NE). A few fields of later planted, wet corn still out there.

The only builder I'm aware of was Wilson, but I've not seen anything that specifically say's 6-40 (roadster) were produced by them.

Good harvesting and stay warm,

Rob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kenneth W DeLong on Friday, November 14, 2014 - 09:09 am:

Rob,All the corn here is late and wet but wed we harvested and dryed 150 acers!!! one combine,5 semis,and 3 drivers slip seating!! Ice starting to form on the pond,all the leaves are off the trees and deer season is sat!! Bud.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR on Friday, November 14, 2014 - 09:19 am:

Rob -- It's one thing for Dean to take her clothes off, but removing her "jugs" is going too far! :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By G.R.Cheshire on Friday, November 14, 2014 - 09:33 am:

Rob how about a picture of the crank I would like to see just how big that thing is and how long is the stroke?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Friday, November 14, 2014 - 09:45 am:

Here's a Model K crank compared to a Model T from an earlier thread: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/331880/407285.html?1386986001

cranks


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Hjortnaes, Men Falls, WI on Friday, November 14, 2014 - 10:55 am:

Dean has got 6 jugs to play with? Don't they come in pairs? I will head to Iowa to get him those 6 spark plugs he is looking for. Keep him away from her tail(pipe) :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dean Yoder on Friday, November 14, 2014 - 11:10 am:

K jugs come in 6 pack NRS jugs come in pairs.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen on Friday, November 14, 2014 - 11:11 am:

Bud, Stay safe and good luck with harvest and hunting.

MIke, This makes 18 "K" jugs Dean has played with now. He's the most experienced (K) jug man on the planet......

G.R., the bore/stroke is 4 1/4 X 4 1/2. While the T and K journals look somewhat similar in size, the K crank is quite a bit larger in diameter (don't recall the size now). Another thing to remember about the K, seven mains. How goes the crankcase, so goes the crankshaft......

Roger, thank you for finding and posting the previous link.

Dave, will we see you in the stands at the Saturday game (Nebraska at Wisconsin) from the comfort of our living room?

Go Big Red (south).


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Hjortnaes, Men Falls, WI on Friday, November 14, 2014 - 12:54 pm:

I work 9 to 3. I don't get to see the Huskers lose unless they can bring in Ameer. Then it's a toss up. I will bet a Speedster a case of brats a case of beer and a case of cheese home delivered against a Model K in pieces and no spark plugs.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Hjortnaes, Men Falls, WI on Saturday, November 15, 2014 - 07:00 pm:

Where are u Rob?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen on Saturday, November 15, 2014 - 09:06 pm:

Dave,

Just back from friends. It was ugly....... Congrats to the Badgers. Hope you enjoyed the game. We have about three inches of snow here to add insult to injury,

Rob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan B on Saturday, November 15, 2014 - 09:12 pm:

Did I miss the part where you said why you're doing this?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stephen D Heatherly on Saturday, November 15, 2014 - 10:10 pm:

I like the model T's two speed transmission just fine, especially with my ruckstell. :-) I would love to see more pictures of the K.

Stephen


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen on Sunday, November 16, 2014 - 12:22 am:

Dan,
If you mean why dismantle the car, it hasn't been started since at least the 1980's. it probably hasn't seen significant service since it was donated to the Larz Anderson Museum in the mid 60's. We intend to drive the car extensively so are going through everything.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Sunday, November 16, 2014 - 04:36 am:

Even going to gap the spark plugs?
I enjoy watching your progress! Thank you for sharing.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Mazza on Sunday, November 16, 2014 - 08:59 am:

When getting the early cars road ready what is the extent of rebuilding? Do the the jugs and crank and other components get magna fluxed and if things are found to be damaged beyond repair what do you do? With a model t its not a huge deal, I have a scat crank, stipe cam, and other stuff like new trans parts. If the crank and cam are worn out can you turn to the same suppliers for help? I'm sure there is someone who can reman trans parts for you if needed.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen on Sunday, November 16, 2014 - 09:31 am:

David,
Fortunately, there are NRS builders who have turned out transmission parts and other things. I also have a Stipe cam for our Model N (Bill Stipe ran a group of them a few years ago). Unfortunately there are so few Ford Model K, (and A, B, C and F) that a part will have to be "built" form scratch. I know there was a gentleman who built Model K transmissions, however I believe he is no longer able to remanufacture transmission parts.

Another K owner recently had pats (gears?) made for his K, so it can be done. We won't magnaflux the crank (we did not do the other either) if everything else looks good (bearings appear to be inline, no uneven wear, etc.).


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bruce Balough on Sunday, November 16, 2014 - 10:10 am:

David,
The fun of a car of that era is, doing the research, finding parts, learning how to make the parts, building parts from scratch, then driving the cars. But the best part are the friends you meet along the way!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By kep on Sunday, November 16, 2014 - 12:40 pm:

i find it amusing a car can be running fine for years and then the person does some maintenance, magnafluxes it and finds out it has a flaw and calls it "not repairable" (or finds rust in some out of the way place for that matter) Hello? anyone in there? it was running fine, reuse it, you can't do anything else.

Then again i'm sure the model K will be just fine.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen on Monday, November 17, 2014 - 11:12 am:

Another way to do valves, guides and seats..........



MIke B. doing his magic. Who says you can't teach old Model T guys new tricks? This is the third Model K engine Mike's worked on in the last year.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 - 08:42 pm:

Dean pulled out the outer bearings. He placed one beside a T and TT bearing (below):


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 - 09:10 pm:

So the K bearing is on the left?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 - 10:05 pm:

:-)


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