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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dean Yoder on Thursday, November 13, 2014 - 11:40 pm:

Show us your most unusual carburetor

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Georgetown TX on Friday, November 14, 2014 - 06:06 am:

Here's a carb that looks weird but works fine. I ran it on my '13 for a while. Like any advertising the claims are wildly exaggerated of course. But it starts easily and runs fine.



Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Georgetown TX on Friday, November 14, 2014 - 06:11 am:

Here's the Winfield carb / manifold that is currently on my '15 touring. It is the best performance increase I have encountered for a carb swap compared to a NH straight thru. Amazing performance, starts one pull on the crank when cold. The advertising claims are accurate. The manifold may be part of the reason the car runs so well, but the carburetor itself is a design unlike most others. It has a barrel valve throttle, not a butterfly like all the others.



Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Georgetown TX on Friday, November 14, 2014 - 06:23 am:

This is the U&J carb / intake on my '17 torpedo runabout. These were very popular when the Model T was new, so you can often find them on eBay or at swap meets. Performance is again far better than any straight thru NH carb. Removing the heat pipe helps performance in anything but sub zero temperature. Easy starting with the crank needing only one pull when cold.

This is another case of false claims and indeed outright lies in advertising concerning the mileage. The gas mileage using the U&J is perhaps negative 5% compared to a straight thru NH.





Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Georgetown TX on Friday, November 14, 2014 - 06:26 am:

Oops, the above picture shows the U& J when it was on my '15 several years ago. Here it is today on the '17:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Seth from NC on Friday, November 14, 2014 - 07:14 am:

That first one is pretty wild Dean. But if I remember correctly you've got a whole wall full of weird ones. =)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace, North FL on Friday, November 14, 2014 - 11:16 am:



Air-Friction brand.

Looks impressive on the tiny T intake. But its a wall hanger :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Friday, November 14, 2014 - 12:08 pm:

Dean,
That carburetor looks quite similar to a Holley Vaporizer. It looks like a manifold heater built into the exhaust manifold. It says Pat Pending. I wonder if Holley beat them to the patent.
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange on Friday, November 14, 2014 - 01:18 pm:

OT: Norm's mention of Pat Pending reminded me of Professor Pat Pending and his Converticar:

http://hanna-barbera.wikia.com/wiki/Professor_Pat_Pending

:-O


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stan Howe Helena, Montana on Friday, November 14, 2014 - 01:46 pm:

The U & J is as good as it gets. They are great carbs, the problem with them is that the brass used to make the bowls was brittle and most of them cracked, either when new or not too long after. Because of this there are quite a few NOS ones around with no bowl. Since I have never been able to find a bowl that interchanges directly with the U & J I made some jigs to hold the bowl to rework it so it fits and then machine the U & J body to accept it. That way I can do either brass or steel bowls.

The other problem, of course, is that you have to have a manifold to put it on. Lots of the ones that were taken off were taken off at the flange instead of pulling the manifold so the manifold is hard to find.

Here is a new old stock one that I put a steel bowl on.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Donnie Brown North Central Arkansas on Friday, November 14, 2014 - 07:48 pm:

Hers mine ,,, It is gasoline/kerosene

carb

carb 2

carb 3

carb tag


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Donnie Brown North Central Arkansas on Friday, November 14, 2014 - 07:52 pm:

Has anyone ran or rebuilt an Air Friction carb. I have about a dozen of them and Im thinking about trying one on my speedster project .?? They seem to have been popular, there are lots of them around today ...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Donnie Brown North Central Arkansas on Friday, November 14, 2014 - 08:04 pm:

Here is a photo of my U&J bowl. It is typical of all the original bowls I have seen ..

U&J


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Georgetown TX on Friday, November 14, 2014 - 08:26 pm:

There are lots of Air Friction carbs around. I suspect they were great carburetors. Word of mouth is much more powerful and truthful than printed advertisements.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Friday, November 14, 2014 - 09:04 pm:

Harry Miller Master Carb that Gene Carrothers just cleaned and assembled for me to sell on tbay:



The fuel flows through those tiny holes in the harmonica.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Layden Butler on Friday, November 14, 2014 - 09:07 pm:

Kingston 10 ball
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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stan Howe Helena, Montana on Friday, November 14, 2014 - 09:30 pm:

Layden, I have one of those somewhere on a UPS truck coming in to rebuild for a tractor. I've never seen a real one there can't be much more to them a standard 5 ball and the barrel throttle.

Donnie, that is what virtually every U & J bowl looks like unless it has been replaced.

Ralph, I have several of those and have always been going to get one tested to see if they are as good as I think. They should be just fabulous. The barrel is made of aluminum in some of them and is a tedious job to whittle out on a lathe and mill. I don't think anybody repops them. They came in several sizes, I think I have 4 different sizes or maybe 3. Have you ever run that??

If you want to see some T accessory carbs from my collection, click the link. Not all of them are on there but at least two are prototypes as near as we can find out, the H & N and the Booty. The Triple Mix may be too. This is about half of my collection. I've sold some, I tried to find some rich guy who would buy them from me and donate them to the museum and take the writeoff -- which I don't need -- but nobody ever stepped up. So I've gradually been selling them. Not much interest to tell the truth. I paid a lot for some of them, more than I will ever get out of them now. For awhile Russ and I and another guy were bidding on ebay hot and heavy for them. I haven't seen anything very good on ebay for a long time.

Back to the shop, baby needs shoes and it's only Friday night.

http://www.strombergof.com/Other_Carburetors.php


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Penserini on Saturday, November 15, 2014 - 01:37 pm:

Zoom zoom zoom


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Martin Vowell, Sylmar, CA on Wednesday, November 19, 2014 - 05:13 am:

Stan...a lot of interesting gadgets you got there...gonna have to take a crack a some of them sometime (as soon as I get enough pictures of them). :-)

Ralph, yours is pretty interesting also, and looks like there enough there to get started on too.

That ten ball looks to have a selector switch in the middle on one side, probably to switch between kerosene and gasoline, which to my mind suggests it's for a tractor...goofy arrangement...looks like it would be fun to draw though. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jay - In Northern California on Wednesday, November 19, 2014 - 09:12 am:

Here's a dual kerosene/gasoline setup. I am looking for a good manifold for the carb I have thats missing one or I'd sell my extra carb to someone who has the manifold.




Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jay - In Northern California on Wednesday, November 19, 2014 - 09:20 am:

Here's an NOS Rayfield UF carb That came complete in the remains of an original box.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jay - In Northern California on Wednesday, November 19, 2014 - 09:26 am:

This unit is brand new in the original box with instructions and even the hanging tag.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jay - In Northern California on Wednesday, November 19, 2014 - 09:31 am:

Here's a Griffin model G carburetor.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jay - In Northern California on Wednesday, November 19, 2014 - 09:36 am:

Here's a Zenith S4BF.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jay - In Northern California on Wednesday, November 19, 2014 - 09:43 am:

Here' an AERO Carburetor that Stan Howe restored from a near mint unit.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jay - In Northern California on Wednesday, November 19, 2014 - 08:51 pm:

Simmons Super Power Carburetor


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