Bendigo swap meet. I found a treasure.

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Andrew Brand on Sunday, November 16, 2014 - 01:44 am:

This unassuming piece has special significance.



I went to Bendigo swap meet this weekend (Its one of the bigger swaps in Australia). Due to lack of sleep on Friday night, I wasn't at my best on Saturday. No matter: the worst day at a swap meet is still better than the best day at work. As usual it was great to see friends and talk about what we'd seen, but I wasn't firing on all cylinders. When away from our site I wandered around in a daze. Despite that I found a few nice parts throughout the day. Sales were pretty good too, so no complaints from me.

Late in the afternoon I was stumbling along almost exhausted when I saw the piece pictured above. Something in my fried brain triggered a subconscious thought that it was an important piece, so I picked it up and studied it. Alas I couldn't place it, so put it down again and kept going.

On the way back to our accommodation last night I started wondering, remembered what it might have been, and recalled it being discussed on the forum. As soon as I got back I was online searching and sure enough, it matched the photos. I had one of these assemblies and this was the missing piece!

There was heavy rain overnight, and I feared the remainder of the swap would be a washout. All I could do was hope that the vendors would still be there in the morning, and that the part would still be available. Well, they were, it was, and I bought it. So - who knows what it is?

If I had noticed this factory number when I first saw it I'm sure it's meaning would have occurred to me:



Its the idler pulley for the short-lived (and somewhat elusive) right hand drive generator setup discussed here.

Here are some photos of my (now complete) setup:







Here is a diagram from "The Ford Starting and Lighting system. Right Hand Control":



I have the 1920 engine that this came from. What a great weekend...

Andrew


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Patterson on Sunday, November 16, 2014 - 02:46 am:

Well done Andrew,
I wish it was mine.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Chantrell - Adelaide, Australia on Sunday, November 16, 2014 - 04:06 am:

Well done Andrew, great detective work indeed. Glad it found a very good home.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Sunday, November 16, 2014 - 04:40 am:

WOW!!! Fan-tastic!
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Allan Bennett - Australia on Sunday, November 16, 2014 - 05:23 am:

Andrew, you missed a bit!!!!! In my stuff, and I still have it I think, is a steel hub fan, complete with arm, just as you show in the photo. I had no idea just what it was. So now you can add the fan blade to the assembly!

Quite exciting!

Allan from down under.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Georgetown TX on Sunday, November 16, 2014 - 08:48 am:

Wow, great information! Saved to file. Thank you!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ray Green on Sunday, November 16, 2014 - 09:13 am:

Hi Andrew, you did well as I only found one item on my list so I bombed out. I will say that after not going for ten years then going again I was not impressed with the swap meet. It was smaller that the last time I was there, the halls had to many model sellers and antique shop junk being sold by the stall holders, to me it has turned into a trash and treasure with lots of late model Holden parts and so much hot rod stuff but I will say the one thing that made it a waste of time and space was some guy selling throngs and giving a foot fitting with a sales pitch on how they suited the buyer and he could do them in any colour, like a bit of rubber to put on your foot and he needs a car swap meet. I think the swap meet in Queensland would be a better bet as it cost me $800 to go there and I got one side light bracket which I hope your father can match for me as we had a long talk at the site,


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob McDaniel(Indiana Trucks)Star City In on Sunday, November 16, 2014 - 11:22 pm:

Andrew,

Great find! I love how it feels to fall into a missing part like that. You just never know what or where you will find. Glad you got it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Chantrell - Adelaide, Australia on Monday, November 17, 2014 - 04:09 pm:

Another guy I know is restoring a 1925 "Dalegty" Ford and needs the windscreen stanchions. He was speaking to a guy, who thought he had seen what he was after. He came back to this guy as arranged and he had found the stanchions and sold them to my guy for what he paid.

There are still some great people out there...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Monday, November 17, 2014 - 04:23 pm:

That bracket in the first picture told me it had something to do with a fan. Seeing the idler properly mounted in the third and fourth makes sense of it. An excellent find and an excellent post about it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Michael Mullis on Monday, November 17, 2014 - 05:18 pm:

I'd really love to own that setup.
Awesome!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Aldrich Orting Wa on Monday, November 17, 2014 - 06:44 pm:

Don't you just love it when a plan finally comes together.

Great job!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Allan Bennett - Australia on Monday, November 17, 2014 - 07:20 pm:

Andrew, I found it. I presumed it was an aftermarket part to get around the wear problems with the alloy pulleys.

You must have been off your game to miss it.

Allan from down under.fan assembly


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Herb Iffrig on Monday, November 17, 2014 - 08:30 pm:

I think there was an article in one of the club magazines years ago about this set up.
Anyone have an index to check?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Page on Monday, November 17, 2014 - 09:02 pm:

Herb,

Here is the information on the Vintage Ford article. I posted it on this July 2010 thread. ( Link Below )

I have been systematically going through my old Vintage Ford magazines looking for references to this generator bracket. So far I have covered from 1973-1987. I have found three references to the bracket.I know that some where I have seen Peters article on the bracket, but I haven't come across it as jet. The first reference is in V.F. March- April 1976 Vol.11 No,7 P.41 in the letters section.The next March -April 1979 Vol.14 No.2 pages 47-49 again in the letters section.Next Nov.-Dec.1979 Vol.14 No 6 Pages 14-15. This is in an article by Bruce and Peter titled ( Right Hand Drive). If required I can keep looking. Best regards, John

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By mark herdman on Sunday, November 23, 2014 - 06:17 pm:

Andrew

I have a few spare cast iron fan pullys the same as yours if anyone wants one

Mark


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