Keyway problem Question

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2014: Keyway problem Question
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By lorenzo leon on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 - 09:39 pm:

The keyway in the rear axle will not budge [cant get it out] ,Vice grips ,Chisels, no way
Is there another way I can try?. Is heat an option
Thank you all ...Lorenzo


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jack Daron - Brownsburg IN on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 - 09:51 pm:

The keyway is machined into the axle. It won't ever come out. Do you mean the key?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerry Davis on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 - 09:54 pm:

I've always used a punch on the end of the key. The key way is sloped upwards at the opposite end and usually with some encouragement it will slide in and up. Was never able to use pliers to pull a stubborn one out and never had to use heat. Used dry ice once on another stuck part with some success.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By lorenzo leon on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 - 10:12 pm:

Thanks Gerry, I have tried it, no way ,im afraid to pound too hard on the end , and brake something inside the diferential I was thinking of drilling and tap it out,or other trick I can do , Sorry Jack it is the key
She is in there but good


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jack Daron - Brownsburg IN on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 - 10:34 pm:

It is likely stuck in there with grease and dirt.I would try lightly heating it and then tap down on one end of key to see if it jars loose.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace, North FL on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 - 10:34 pm:

I'm with Jerry, use a punch and whop it with a big 3 lbs. mallet. The key way is tapered toward the hub, so place the punch on the top corner of that stuck key, at the axle end, with a slight downward striking blow, and it will then tip the other end of the key and push it up and out.






If rusted in place, wire brush the area first and apply penetrating oil, (PB Blaster, Strong Arm, Liquid Wrench, Kroil), even if not rusted apply penetrating oil.

That key is probably locked on its side as it can wear and leave a groove in the side of the key, that can mushroom into the axle key way.

But it will come out with a good smack of punch and big hammer.



Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 - 10:53 pm:


You tried this with a bigger hammer and it didn't work? I guess it's good news that the key is tight, and not loose. If you resort to heat, I'd direct the flame across the key and try to turn it red without affecting the axle shaft too much.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harold Schwendeman - Sumner,WA on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 - 11:00 pm:

Jerry, Dan & Steve - Good information for sure, but wouldn't something like a brass rod be a better choice than a hardened center punch? Or did I miss something here? Just wondering,.....harold


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace, North FL on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 - 11:53 pm:

Harold

Nah....steel on steel. It's just an axle key!

And most likely since its stuck, its toast and you don't want to use it again.

Steve's pic is good, but I would use a flat end round punch, and hit more on the upper corner, to give the key a ride along the tapered key way.

For me always am wearing glasses, but be sure to use safety glasses, if your not a 4-eye like me :-) when hammering on things.

An uncle lost his eye from a nail. Hammering it in overhead ceiling trim, holding the nail with fingers and a glancing blow sent that nail flying at his face, into his eye. Remembered that as a kid.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By lorenzo leon on Wednesday, November 19, 2014 - 09:09 am:

Finaly got it , made a tool by grinding a chisel
at an angle in one side then putting it against shaft and hammering on both sides till it let loose, key=junk--Harold,i started with brass but it was too soft
Thank you all for the input


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