Old Ford Dealership Damaged In Kansas City

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan B on Friday, November 21, 2014 - 09:04 am:

Saw this reported on the news this morning:

KANSAS CITY, Mo. — A woman driving a stolen vehicle crashed head-on into an old Ford dealership in downtown Kansas City Thursday morning. The crash happened at 18th and Oak streets at a building that housed antique and vintage cars.

Fire officials said the crash weakened the building and a portion of the roof collapsed, at which time a vintage car fell out and landed in the rubble on the street below. The collapse was captured on a nearby business’s surveillance video.

The owner of the building, Chris Willsey, said he used the building to store his collection of cars.

“They’re unrestored vehicles,” he said. “They’re old, antique vehicles from the 40s, 50s, 60s.”

....

Engineers assessed the damage.

“They’re very worried the entire building has been weakened by the collapse,” Garrett said.

Crews may be forced to demolish the building, although further assessment is needed before engineers make that decision.

http://fox4kc.com/2014/11/20/482563/

From the looks of Google street view, it could have in fact been an old Ford dealership.

Can anyone from the area or those that are good researchers confirm?



(Message edited by Dan B on November 21, 2014)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By G.R.Cheshire on Friday, November 21, 2014 - 09:12 am:

Not that building the one across the street.Turn 90 degrees to the right


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan B on Friday, November 21, 2014 - 09:48 am:

Right you are.

Here's the building.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Friday, November 21, 2014 - 10:03 am:




Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Friday, November 21, 2014 - 10:05 am:

Dan figured out Street View faster than I did. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Greenlees on Friday, November 21, 2014 - 10:51 am:



I have been trying to find out the name of the Ford dealer that was supposed to be in this building that was damaged.

The photo above of G. T. O'Maley was found, but they were are listed as being at 18th and McGee and the buidings are different.

Anyone know the name of the Ford dealer that was in the building? Could it have been O'Maley, who later moved?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen on Friday, November 21, 2014 - 11:08 am:

What is the address?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Friday, November 21, 2014 - 11:13 am:

18th & Oak.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Friday, November 21, 2014 - 11:16 am:

That building posted by Dan G and Steve Jelf looks like it is sagging in the middle. You can see the bricks are out of alignment the third window from the left and also directly below it on the first floor. Also same problem at large door on right side. Note the cars in the window upstairs. They need to get those cars out as soon as possible and tear down this unsafe building.
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Burger in Spokane on Friday, November 21, 2014 - 11:24 am:

Norm,

You aren't in the construction or renovation business, are you ?

That is kinda like saying "We need to amputate" because someone's hair is getting long.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Miller, Mostly in Dearborn on Friday, November 21, 2014 - 11:26 am:

I don't see anything in Steve's Google photo that indicates structural problems prior to the crash. I think the mismatch is the way Google pastes their images to make a continuous street photo.



The bakery near me and the light post show similar flaws.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Terry Woods, Richmond, Texas on Friday, November 21, 2014 - 11:36 am:

George Clipner is from Missouri and knows K.C well. Maybe he can chime in; that is unless he's too busy celebrating his Birthday, TODAY !


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen on Friday, November 21, 2014 - 11:45 am:

From my iPhone:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Friday, November 21, 2014 - 11:48 am:

I believe Tom is right about the source of the "sagging". It's different in the two different views.

I wonder if George is as old as I am yet.
:-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan B on Friday, November 21, 2014 - 11:49 am:

Here is some interesting info I found from The Automotive Industries Vol. 34 1916:



http://books.google.com/books?id=0sgqAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA999&dq=mcgee+street+was+oak+street+ford+kansas+city&output=html_text&source=gbs_search_r&cad=1

McGee Street is the next street over from Oak. I believe the picture David posted above is the McGee Street property referenced and the Oak Street is the one that was damaged in this incident.

Here is a current picture of the McGee Street property to compare with David's picture.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan B on Friday, November 21, 2014 - 11:54 am:

And a street view with both buildings referenced in the picture (Oak Street building far left and McGee Street building far right)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Darel J. Leipold on Friday, November 21, 2014 - 12:11 pm:

The Ford Company from about 1912 through the 1920s built local distribution centers very similar to the one damaged. There is one in St. Paul, MN of similar construction that was saved from demolition several years ago.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Friday, November 21, 2014 - 12:42 pm:

It's been my observation that journalists are often as confused about geography as anybody else. The phrase "across the alley from the former purchase" in Rob's posts is a red herring. The damaged building is on the southeast corner of 18th and Oak. The other building is a block west, not across the alley, on the southeast corner of 18th and McGee.


Here's another view showing both buildings. Looking east on 18th, the McGee building is in the foreground and the Oak building (the damaged one) is at the next corner east.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mack Cole ---- Earth on Friday, November 21, 2014 - 12:45 pm:

If you look at the reflection in the window of 1 of the pics Steve posted you will see a portion of the "Google Mobile" that takes the pictures.That dang thing went down the road here at speed about a year ago and a little thing on top was spinning around and around.So the pictures would have to be pasted together and since it is not important for bricks to be straight in pictures they get it close and forget it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan B on Friday, November 21, 2014 - 01:07 pm:

I agree Steve. I wonder if the walkway they reference was ever constructed between the two buildings. Seems like a long span to me. Then again, it could have easily been torn down at some point in time.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Greenlees on Friday, November 21, 2014 - 02:58 pm:

GREAT job guys in figuring this out!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Chantrell - Adelaide, Australia on Friday, November 21, 2014 - 03:07 pm:

I enjoyed this thread very much. Very, very interesting. Great detective work.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Donnie Brown North Central Arkansas on Friday, November 21, 2014 - 06:06 pm:

In about six hours time , we have seen a complete discussion of an old building in some town far, far, away. In that time we have learned some of its history, saw pictures of it from then and now. Discussed its "sister" building and have learned a little about some modern idiot likely destroying (maybe) something that has stood for years. It is amazing what this forum can figure out and bring to life in such a short time. "I love this place". :-) :-) The poor owner of the damaged building is probably unaware of anyone having any interest in his building.


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