Head identification

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob from Nova Scotia on Friday, November 21, 2014 - 08:02 pm:

Picked this up in Maine a while back. Any idea as to the year?

is this casting date?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob from Nova Scotia on Friday, November 21, 2014 - 08:13 pm:

Does the last picture show the casting date?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Friday, November 21, 2014 - 11:21 pm:

Is it a low head, or high? You're not showing the whole thing, so it's hard to compare with pictures in the Rodda book. I'm pretty sure those numbers are not the date. On mine they're 3 and 9, and it's definitely not a 1909 head.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Friday, November 21, 2014 - 11:50 pm:

I think it's the casting date - just not the year (3 15 = march 15:th) It was put there for production control, not for collectors or restorers in the future ;)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob from Nova Scotia on Saturday, November 22, 2014 - 05:14 am:

Steve it is a low head. I will post a few more pics when I get home from night shift


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Georgetown TX on Saturday, November 22, 2014 - 08:01 am:

It is a late 1912 / early 1913 calendar year head. The two numbers are month and day. They represent the date March 15, 1913.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By James J. Lyons III - West Virginia on Saturday, November 22, 2014 - 08:01 am:

Roger Karlsson is correct. The date at the rear of the head is the month and day... There is no "year" embossed. If you are able to observe and original or otherwise unmolested engine, you will find that this date usually coincides (to a degree) with the casting date on the block. On my original 15 and 13 Tourings, the dates are within 1 week of each other (meaning block and head dates).


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Georgetown TX on Saturday, November 22, 2014 - 08:01 am:

Oh, forgot to mention it is a Canadian head.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Saturday, November 22, 2014 - 06:52 pm:

It looks like a low head. What do the combustion chambers look like?
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob from Nova Scotia on Saturday, November 22, 2014 - 07:57 pm:

It is a low head. Thank you Royce. I kinda figured you might have known. It's a good head. No cracks etc. What would it be worth?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob from Nova Scotia on Saturday, November 22, 2014 - 07:58 pm:

Norman I will post a pic of the combustion chamber tomorrow


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Georgetown TX on Saturday, November 22, 2014 - 08:32 pm:

Rob,

It is a very rare head. It ought to be worth $500 - $750. Maybe more but Model T people tend to be frugal.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Parker on Sunday, November 23, 2014 - 08:06 am:

Royce,

I have a low head that is just like the one Rob has except it doesn't have the letter or little mark up by the water outlet. It is 3-18 for the day/month. It was on my car # 312,400 which is US.

How do you tell it is a Canadian head?

Thanks,

Ken in Houston


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Georgetown TX on Sunday, November 23, 2014 - 08:25 am:

The late 1912 - 13 Canadian heads don't have Ford script in that era. At least the ones I have seen.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob from Nova Scotia on Sunday, November 23, 2014 - 05:14 pm:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By joe bell on Sunday, November 23, 2014 - 05:21 pm:

I have seen several early car heads with original engines in them and most the early heads I have seen have used the big square chablits in the pours. In case some one does not know what a chablit is, it holds the sand core in place while the hot iron is poured in the mold, then it melts to the new iron. Just my thoughts on it and I would think it is a Canadian head also.Lack of Ford on it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Frank van Ekeren (Australia) on Sunday, November 23, 2014 - 10:57 pm:

I just checked my spares, found one with chablits, no ford script and 9/21, late 1912? was on a 1916 block.
If it's worth what Royce has said, it,s on the market!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Monday, November 24, 2014 - 02:48 am:

Here is a similar head that sold for $52,51 at eBay in september:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Model-T-Ford-Low-Head-/231327384753
more low


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Townsend ; ^ ) Gresham, Orygun on Wednesday, November 26, 2014 - 01:53 am:

The US made 1913 heads have that square mold mark


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