Old timer brush

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Sims on Sunday, November 23, 2014 - 01:00 pm:

A friend has about 50 of these timer parts he got in a bunch of old parts. They are missing the actual brush part. Has any one seen what the brush would look like ? A brush could be pushed in the end and compress the flat spring into a slot, but it would come right out when you remove your finger. I do see that these are almost identical to the TW unit now being sold. Thought I would try them if I could. brush holder 1brush holder 2brush holder 3


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace, North FL on Sunday, November 23, 2014 - 03:53 pm:

Curious design. The function of that brass strap screwed on the holder.

A bit similar to the Never-Fail, which was a rotor only to go into the Ford timer shell.




Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Todd on Monday, November 24, 2014 - 11:43 am:

Looks like it would use a fairly short brush. Shouldn't be hard to fabricate a brush to fit and give it a try in a Ford case.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Charlie B actually in Toms River N.J. on Monday, November 24, 2014 - 11:53 am:

Oh I get it. (I think). The brush was pushed into the square hole against the spring. Must have been a pleasant experience installing the cover.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Tuesday, November 25, 2014 - 04:57 am:

brush suggestion


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Herb Iffrig on Tuesday, November 25, 2014 - 06:08 am:


I guess this one wouldn't work.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen on Tuesday, November 25, 2014 - 06:17 am:

Herb, your up early (or late).

:-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Sims on Tuesday, November 25, 2014 - 09:40 am:

Herb, I have been waiting for that answer. I like Roger's idea of a brush with a hole in it. I remember reading that Ford had a brush assembly like this at one time, but forgot where I saw the picture. My parts have patent applied for on them. They probably were a part that never was sold.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Tuesday, November 25, 2014 - 10:01 am:

Here's a thread with pictures of Ford's short lived timer brush experiment in 1919 (1920 model year cars) http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/411944/438276.html?1397648612

Maybe the material in the brushes Ford used wasn't friendly to the housing - more like starter motor brushes while softer generator brush material would have been better?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace, North FL on Monday, December 01, 2014 - 06:13 pm:

Jim

Found those timer rotors!

Advertised first in the January 1922 Ford Owner & Dealer. 2-page spread in two color yet!

"Master" Perfect Contact Rotor.

This rotor made to fit into the Ford timer shell.




Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ron Patterson-Nicholasville, Kentucky on Monday, December 01, 2014 - 06:53 pm:

Looks to me like the same concept, but different implementation?
Ron the Coilman


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ted Dumas on Monday, December 01, 2014 - 06:54 pm:

You could fab a brush from a generator brush, Model T or other and try them out.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ron Patterson-Nicholasville, Kentucky on Monday, December 01, 2014 - 07:12 pm:

I suggest a starter brush.
Ron the Coilman


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