This is a sad situation.
Has a history dating back to the......lots of things. Don't mean it took part. It was also once owned by Henry Ford. Well, all 'cept that V6.
The ad says the car is "sure to raise an eyebrow". They got that right. It really makes you wonder what is wrong with people today.
I think to many people the mechanical part of a Model T is not important. They just want to have the appearance of caring about a brass era car.
Rubber tomahawk mentality.
Hey, I like it, wouldn't take me long to get all that junk off and make a real T out of it. But not for that price! KGB
Original running gear is included so would just be a matter of removing the V6 stuff and installing it and a new radiator. Hope those are new wood wheels anyway.
at least its got a water pump to compliment that green radiator
You gotta wonder how a radiator that is only capable of cooling a 20 hp engine when new can cool over 100 hp in that condition. MUST be the water pump.
Drop the $20,000. I'd give him $6,900.
Looks like a death trap to me. Original steering, front axle, wheels, suspension with five times the power. Might be okay if the speed was governed to 40 mph.
"Featured in the movie Winter's Tale featuring Russell Crowe"
As a movie-prop, it makes perfect sense. I haven't seen the movie, but I'd assume they needed it to be easy for people unfamiliar with Model T's to operate it.
Movie production is expensive, and it was probably way cheaper to pay a shop to modify the car with modern drivetrain than to spend countless hours and interruption of filming to teach people how to properly operate a Model T. Sounds are all added in post-production anyway.
In the movie "Lawless" a modern rear axle is clearly visible under the TT driven by the main characters. That's Hollywood...
Can you imagine the work that went into messing up that lovely car? The story fits, that it was modified for a movie prop. The original purchase cost of the car plus the cost of the modifications
would have meant it cost the movie production company a small fortune. It would have been much cheaper to hire a good Model T driver and maintainer! Maybe that's a good job for me??
Warwick, I agree. I think if they had started with a good mechanically sound car and use a driver double it may have saved the producers a ton of money. That V6 engine must be very heavy for the front end.
Dumb -The actors spend weeks learning to be in character in terms of accents speech pattern mannerisms not to mention learning the script. How long would it take them to learn to drive a Model T. Even an actor could get the basics within 30mins. Karl
The cost to modify the car was peanuts compared to the movie's $60-million budget.
I read the plot on wikipedia... sounds like a really dumb movie.
Actors are sharp, gifted people and I marvel at their ability to memorize vast amounts of scripted dialogue and, as they recall the phrases to be recited, add the magic of acting. -Back when I was a kid, every actor had to learn to ride a horse and make the animal hit its mark and "act" for the cameras.
Compared to the memorizing, research and prep that goes into method acting, learning to drive a Model T is a piece of cake. -I've a feeling that driving the George Barris Batmobile would be more of a challenge (Adam West hated the thing and on one occasion, the brakes on the beast weren't enough to keep it from crashing through the wall of the Batcave set. -It couldn't be driven above 40 mph and the camera had to be slowed down to make it appear faster. -The recent buyer of the car (who paid something like $4.6 million) also commented on what an absolutely horrible driver the Batmobile is).
Nevertheless, this V-6 powered Model T probably has a place on the streets of a theme park like Disney World or Knott's Berry Farm, with some mute, fuzzy, human-sized, cartoon character at the wheel.
I noticed it was for sale by the third garage. I guess the first two didn't want ant part of it.
I used to work with a guy that had worked for Disney when they built Disneyland Tokyo.
He had spent a little time there working on their "Carousel of Progress" attraction.
He told me that the company purchased a perfectly restored '47 Chevy Convertible. When they brought the car into the shops, the first thing they did was to yank the newly rebuilt engine and trans and throw them into the dumpster.
They needed room for the animatronics that controlled the figures in the car.
I'm surprised they have the torque converter & flywheel exposed like that. It looks like an accident waiting to happen.
I had a job as a veteran vehicle wrangler in the TV series "ANZAC GIRLS" I was in charge of moving/driving a TT ambulance, a 1913 Studebaker ambulance and an Albion chain drive 3 ton truck with genuine WW 1 heritage. They paid me my workshop hourly rate.
The next production decided they could do without someone who knew what they were doing. The result was a TT driven over the front of a trailer and a $2500 bill to repair the front end and replace the radiator which was impaled on the trailer winch.
I have another job on a new series for Foxtel. The same vehicle co-ordinator was involved in all productions.
Its good fun and the pay and food are excellent.
Allan from down under
People can alter their cars if they like, but they should have a good knowledge of vehicle design so they don't create something that is more dangerous than the original car. It's about public safety..
They have changed the rear axle to a modern with an open driveshaft. That may work if the forces on the rear axle is controlled by new links, but I don't think this version is ideal:
The long bars are connected to the rear axle with flexible joints, so the torque in the axle from accelerating and braking is only controlled by the rear spring. I wonder how long that would work if all the resources in the modern engine was used..?
(Message edited by Roger K on December 01, 2014)
A winters tale starrring Russel Crowe..I just fail the logic. If this Crowe guy can memorize a script and can't be taught to drive a car?? And Women and kids can v/s spending all that money? Or I'm just missing something..
I can uderstand a politition can't learn how to drive the thing cause their brain dead but an actor has
to learn and act many roles..They learn how to
drive a horse don't they??
And the Paint is a 10 foot job...if you stand 10 feet away it looks acceptable but when you get close you see the orange peel as seen in several shots
Russell Crowe is very clever
He is a Kiwi (New Zealander) despite what our friends form Australia might say! Same goes for Pavlova and Pharlap -Karl
Karl, you forgot Corriedales!
Allan from down under
Allan I see they are reforming the ANZACs and we are off to fight ISIS together. We may have a go at each other like brothers do but there is no one we would prefer to fight alongside us than each other -Karl
I've driven some crazy stuff, but that one would scare the daylights out of me.
Roger K is right on, the torque will crack those rear radius rods in a straight line even with the universal joint. dont ask how i know this
Derek is right: movie making is VERY expensive and every second counts. I make my living as an actor (bit parts and character roles -- nothing fancy but it pays the bills.) I was in a movie called "Alleged" with the Scopes Monkey Trial as the backdrop to the main story. We filmed at a turn-of-the-last-century location called "Huckleberry Railroad." There were lots of vintage cars including Model Ts. The male lead and one of my fellow actors had to drive a Model T and, frankly, they learned in a matter of minutes -- at least well enough to make it look like they knew what they were doing.
It's a shame what has been done to this car.
(If you're interested, as car guys, I was the lawyer at the end of "Gran Torino.")