Dumb newbie question number 1

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2014: Dumb newbie question number 1
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dwight Romberger on Sunday, November 30, 2014 - 09:36 pm:

Everywhere, it says the clutch fingers should be adjusted so that the clutch spring measures 2".

My question is: 2" measured from where to where?

Should the whole spring be compressed down to 2"?

Thanks,
Dwight


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By A. Gustaf Bryngelson on Sunday, November 30, 2014 - 10:01 pm:

yes


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Kopsky, Lytle TX on Sunday, November 30, 2014 - 10:03 pm:

"Everywhere" where? That's not how the fingers should be adjusted. Read page 83, paragraph 315 of the service manual.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dwight Romberger on Sunday, November 30, 2014 - 11:55 pm:

Sorry, Ken. "everywhere" was a poor choice of words on my part. I have read just about every forum entry on adjusting the clutch spring, and I am relying heavily on the MTFCA "Restoring the Transmission Vol I and II DVD featuring Fred Houstan and Frank Banta. In many of the forum threads and in the DVD, the 2" spring measurement is offered as an additional method of clutch spring adjustment.

I am aware of the 13/16 measurement on pg. 83. But, I am a "belt and suspenders" kind of guy. If there is more than one way to check something, I do. I also could not understand the description on page 83 and the fig 206 on page 84 is to small and dark for me to understand. I searched out a better description and picture. The one below, I can understand:





Ken, thank you again for helping me with this.

Dwight


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dwight Romberger on Sunday, November 30, 2014 - 11:56 pm:

Thanks Gustaf.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By keith g barrier on Monday, December 01, 2014 - 05:12 am:

The 2" measurement works with a new spring of 100 or more pounds strength, no promises on an old one. KGB


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Georgetown TX on Monday, December 01, 2014 - 07:44 am:

A 1/2" RH Ford lug nut makes a perfect go / no go gauge for adjusting the clutch.

I don't know where the 2" dimension comes from. It does not appear in any of my shop manuals.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR on Monday, December 01, 2014 - 09:36 am:

Or if you don't have that lug nut or are worried about dropping it into the transmission, Dean Yoder makes a nifty gauge to measure that 13/16" gap. They are sold thru Lang's and Snyder's.

https://www.modeltford.com/item/3339.aspx


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dwight Romberger on Monday, December 01, 2014 - 11:50 am:

Thanks. I have a new 100 lb. spring and one of Yoder's gauges from Lang's.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Anthonie Boer on Monday, December 01, 2014 - 11:59 am:

I use a gauge made of electric wire.
Toon
1226R


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Gregush Portland Oregon on Tuesday, December 02, 2014 - 11:40 am:

The 2 inch comes from checking the compression=Lbs of the spring. When compressed to 2 inches the spring should take X amount of pounds to do the job. I think it's ether in the clubs engine or transmission book.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Gregush Portland Oregon on Tuesday, December 02, 2014 - 11:43 am:

Sorry edited second message, connectivity problems.

(Message edited by redmodelt on December 02, 2014)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By keith g barrier on Tuesday, December 02, 2014 - 04:25 pm:

Mark you are right, I test the new springs I get and if they fall in the 100 to 110 range when compressed to two inches then that is the way I set them up with no regards to the 13/16" measurement. Have never had a problem. KGB


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