High/low peddle

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2014: High/low peddle
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By eugene story on Monday, December 01, 2014 - 07:24 am:

put in a rebuilt 1926 tran. now the high/low peddle sets to far to the left and the floor boards won't fit the peddle.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Georgetown TX on Monday, December 01, 2014 - 07:33 am:

I bend them to fix this problem. I use a large crescent wrench and a large pair of Channel Lock pliers. Emphasis on LARGE.

Wrap the pedal in duct tape first so you don't scar the paint. There is no need to heat the pedals, they bend easily.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Zibell on Monday, December 01, 2014 - 09:13 am:

Or instead of bending good pedals, replace the floorbords.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Monday, December 01, 2014 - 09:26 am:

Do you have the metal plate which fits over the floorboards? If so, how does it fit the pedals? If the pedal is still too far to the left, the pedal is bent. Or possibly if you replaced the shaft, the shaft might be too long. Otherwise the floorboard is the problem. The pedal can be bent from many years of hard use pushing down on the pedal could bend it to the left.
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Monday, December 01, 2014 - 09:28 am:

Do you have the metal plate which fits over the floorboards? If so, how does it fit the pedals? If the pedal is still too far to the left, the pedal is bent. Or possibly if you replaced the shaft, the shaft might be too long. Otherwise the floorboard is the problem. The pedal can be bent from many years of hard use pushing down on the pedal could bend it to the left. If the pedal is just scraping the floorboard, use a rasp and file the floorboard. As you depress the pedal, it should move toward the right.
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerry VanOoteghem on Monday, December 01, 2014 - 10:07 am:

Eugene,

Are you putting this 26 transmission into a 1926 or 1927 car? How far off is the pedal/floorboards from fitting?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Vaughn on Monday, December 01, 2014 - 10:11 am:

Gene, what year car are you putting this transmission into?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By A. Gustaf Bryngelson on Monday, December 01, 2014 - 10:17 am:

If the car is earlier, there is no way you can bend the pedal to fit,


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George_Cherry Hill NJ on Monday, December 01, 2014 - 10:39 am:

If you are using 09-25 spacing floorboards with a set of 26 pedals...just bend them cold like Royce recommends...

It works...while these floorboards were made for the Hack by the builder...they were the narrow spacing for the earlier pedals...

(Pardon the mess on the left side picture...it did clear up 'neat' before I was done. I was doing turn signals AND a brake switch AND making up tar top cables and looms all at the same time)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Monday, December 01, 2014 - 11:13 am:

I hadn't thought about placing a 26-27 transmission in an earlier car. In that case, your best solution would be to replace the pedals with the pedals from an earlier car. You can use the shafts in the transmission, just remove the pin and replace with earlier pedals. I know it works, because I have a 26-27 transmission with earlier pedals in my 22.
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By eugene story on Tuesday, December 02, 2014 - 01:32 pm:

after checking all advice you all gave,Norman hit the nail on the head. peddle bent to the left from years of hard use. Royce advice on bending the peddle will work. but being as hard headed as I am I will heat with a couple of vice grips for heat sinks to protect the seal in the trans. my thought,if you bend a wire to meany times it will break, bent once cold I bend back cold, may be on the way to a break. So if my wifes next husband bends it from use it may break


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Georgetown TX on Tuesday, December 02, 2014 - 03:47 pm:

Bent dozens of them. They don't break or crack. I would be scared to heat the part for fear you will cause it to be brittle or too soft by your actions.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace, North FL on Tuesday, December 02, 2014 - 04:58 pm:

Royce is correct, bend cold.

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Tools of the trade back then, cold bending irons.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Semprez-Templeton, CA on Tuesday, December 02, 2014 - 05:43 pm:

Eugene, I notice from tour profile, your favorite quote is "everyone has the right to be wrong" so, go ahead and exercise that right.. heat those pedals! :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Frank van Ekeren (Australia) on Tuesday, December 02, 2014 - 06:23 pm:

The "right to be wrong" could be costly, heat Vanadium steel to much and you have mild steel, what took years to bend now might happen with a good stomp on that peddle!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By eugene story on Tuesday, December 02, 2014 - 06:44 pm:

o.k. I know when i'm whipped, bend the peddle cold I will do. some day if you fellows keep after me I may start to suspect something. Don't give up on me yet. I can't argue with Dan's pictures and all your advice makes sense. thank you all. Gene


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Semprez-Templeton, CA on Tuesday, December 02, 2014 - 06:54 pm:

Frank, but it's his right to be wrong. Eugene can find new pedals after he exercises his right.:-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR on Tuesday, December 02, 2014 - 07:47 pm:

I'd love to have one of those "Lamp bracket bending irons" shown in the post by Dan above. I've thought of making one, but it would need to be pretty heavy to be stronger than the headlight stalk.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace, North FL on Tuesday, December 02, 2014 - 08:18 pm:

Mike
Same with me, but the pedal tool is my choice.

When bending with the pipe wrench, inside the car, there is just only so much room. :-(

So resorted to now using a smaller pipe wrench and placing a hollow pipe over the handle to get more leverage, those dang Vanadium steel Ford parts are tough suckers! Makes you wonder how they get bent to begin with, some heavy boot farmer feet standing on low pedal climbing those hills with a full load of something!

Bet those tools were forged, so plenty strong to do the job.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Tomaso - Milton,WA on Tuesday, December 02, 2014 - 08:36 pm:

I have a Ford Factory pedal bending iron - Z number tool - I'll try and post a photo of it tomorrow.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Tomaso - Milton,WA on Thursday, December 04, 2014 - 08:14 pm:

Photos of my Ford Factory iron:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR on Thursday, December 04, 2014 - 09:43 pm:

That 20" length ought to give you plenty of leverage. Thanks for posting the pic, Steve; I've never seen one of those.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Tomaso - Milton,WA on Friday, December 05, 2014 - 06:29 am:

Yes, the leverage makes it an easy chore to straighten or modify any of the three. I've not found that particular Z number in any of the Ford parts lists.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Friday, December 05, 2014 - 06:36 am:

With an aluminum hogshead I suppose it's possible to crack it if you go wild with the bending iron.. I've used two pipe wrenches to hold the bottom part of the pedal steady while bending the upper part. I did it while the cars body wasn't in the way to get the low pedal to clear my lowered steering column.


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