Well I'm back guys, after my original profile crashed for some reason and refuses to let me log back into it. Some of you may remember that I'm interested in selling my assembled from parts chassis in order to help fund my grandfather reacquiring the first model T he restored in 1958: a 1926 T coupe. I've had several inquiries but one I'm hesitant on. Now I've heard of English buyers buying T stuff in America and I know it's not uncommon due to scarcity of parts over there. I'm not trying to be rude, just cautious. Does anyone know of an English T enthusiast known as Keith Granger from the UK?
Cut and paste the content of his message here. That name, I think I have seen it before, as spam.
I read your advert re model T for sale
Is the motor up and running.and is the drive train ok?
I live in England but could arrange shipping if it I decided to buy but this would take a little time to sort.Could you go with that ?
Have you any more pictures you could email me?
I have had model T s before and want to build a delivery van.
.Where In America is the car.
Matthew Atchinson '14 <firstname.lastname@example.org>
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The car is in NY state. Here are some other photos of it attached. The motor should run fine since I rebuilt it with my club, It turns over but since the isn't wired yet I haven't test started it yet. Drive train is fine. My grandfather gave me the rear end and told me not to bother taking it apart as it was fine when he got it. Drive shft is already installed to the transmission. It isn't seen in the pictures but since then Ive also installed the intake, carburetor, exhaust manifold and the exhaust pipe and muffler.
2:42 AM (9 hours ago)
Thank you for sending the pictures.
I am interested in the car and am looking into the cost of shipping to England.
I just wondered if you could tell me.
What did you repair in the motor?
Has the car got a gas tank.?
Do you know the state of the coils?
Many thanks and keep in touch.
Have a nice day as the Americans say!
It seems like a legitimate offer to me I guess. But I just can't fathom buying a T chassis here in the U.S. : he's going to pay a huge amount to have it shipped across the Atlantic!
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My part of the message got mixed into his there while copying^ so what do you guys think?
I have sold Model T's to folks in Scotland with no problems. As long as you get a wire transfer and your bank assures you it is legitimate then I believe you are safe. Shipping from Chicago to Liverpool was an astounding 620 dollars !!!
Keith last posted here in 2013. His reply to you is well worded and he's asking good questions.
I would ask another UK early car person to check on him. Possibly phone. Also, he should be able to speak with you by phone if he's serious. Maybe a Skype call.
I would ask what T(s) he has owned in the past, and where is he located. There is a Keith Granger in the UK who has or had a T, according to the pic above. It does seem like a pricey proposition, but I don't know if a chassis is scarce enough to cause a person to ship one from the U.S.. What do you European guys think?
Sounds legit to me. He seems to be asking the "right" questions, and not wanting "special" payment terms. I would be cautious and take payment in US funds, "before" the shipper arrives. I also have them arrange "all" the shipping. I have sold overseas a few time. I even sold a basket case 25 Franklin to a man in the Chec Republic. The shipping usually costs more than what they are buying. But they do not have as many options to get the parts as we do. Just use good "common sence" and remember there is a little more time and effort involved to sell Overseas. Good luck with the sale ...
I would ask if they have a US bank account, you really have to watch the currency exchange rate otherwise.
I did a UK sale a few months ago and was lucky enough to do the transaction through an American Account that a friend of the buyer has in the states through a local bank, simple and easy, I got the check took it to the bank cashed it deposited into my account, done deal.
Living in the antipodes, I can relate to this situation very well.
Often we NEED to and MUST pay a huge amount of money for shipping etc; in order for us to enjoy the hobby we love.
Although I've never heard of Mr. Granger, all that you have posted above seems legit to me, and I would say go ahead.
You can see the results of my UK deal on YouTube search the model t arrives.
I meant to ad in my previous post,
He is referring to a "Car".
You are referring to a "Chassis"
Could it be that he has his wires crossed and figures he's getting more for his money than he really is?
re Steve's comment on currency, I buy stuff & cars from the US and have a transfer company which pays direct into US accounts from my account. No checks, no problems.
I don't personally know Keith Granger but have heard the name. PM Chris Barker who is registered here, he is on the Model T Register committee and probably will know if he is a member of our club.
If it's just a chassis, it's going to have to go in a container, best done sharing a 40footer with some other guys to cram it full with 3 cars & parts.