Engine reassembly questions

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2014: Engine reassembly questions
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Nathan Bright on Wednesday, December 03, 2014 - 10:00 pm:

Hey yall,

So im currently a grad student and i am headed home for christmas break soon. My engine is apart as I assessed its needs and collected parts. Unfortunately I was unable to put the engine back together before school started back. So here is my question.

My tranny is with a fella who is rebuilding it for me. How much of the engine can i put together w/o having the transmission? Im pretty sure I can put the cam, tappets, valves,and crank into the block and pan. Is that true?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Vaughn on Wednesday, December 03, 2014 - 10:07 pm:

You can do everything except the pan and the manifolds. You will need the pan off to put the transmission back on and off and on and off to adjust mag clearance. But you can put everything else back together.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Nathan Bright on Wednesday, December 03, 2014 - 11:29 pm:

okay, Im using slingers instead of magnets. do i still need the pan off to put the tranny back on the crank?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Murray - Anacortes, WA on Wednesday, December 03, 2014 - 11:38 pm:

Yup...

TT


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Vaughn on Wednesday, December 03, 2014 - 11:53 pm:

Yes, because to properly install the pan so that it is in alignment with the crankshaft and the tail shaft you must have the transmission mounted to the engine. To properly install the pan you should first install the two bolts in front on both sides of the crankshaft, next slip the ball cap over the tail shaft and bolt to the pan with two bolts. ( you don't need the ball cap gasket at this point). If your pan and shafts are aligned the pan and block can be bolted together next, if the bolts won't slip easily through the block and pan then more than likely the pan is out of alignment but your transmission could also be out of alignment. Once the pan is bolted to the block the ball cap should slide easily on and off the shaft and be aligned with the pan. You should have your pan straightened on a pan jig if you can find one in your area.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Nathan Bright on Thursday, December 04, 2014 - 12:04 am:

Cool! Thanks a lot. It has been long enough that i couldnt remember how that piece of the puzzle fit!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Vaughn on Thursday, December 04, 2014 - 12:12 am:

Another reason that the pan goes on after the transmission is that you will not have access to the bolts that mount the transmission to the crankshaft, the pan would be in the way.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Thursday, December 04, 2014 - 03:39 am:

Much, much much, MUCH easier to safety wire the flywheel bolts with the pan NOT in the way. I did one the hard way once. Hopefully, it will remain only once.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Garrison on Thursday, December 04, 2014 - 07:32 am:

Wayne, the beauty of that chassis puts a thump in my heart and a tear to my eye. I think I'll go out to the shop here in a bit and do something Ford related. Preferably Model T.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Dewey, N. California on Thursday, December 04, 2014 - 03:37 pm:

Wayne,
How come I see DUST on only the T chassis, everything else around it looks pretty clean???
:-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Thursday, December 04, 2014 - 04:22 pm:

There is a bolt, maybe two bolts which hold on the magneto ring, the end of which is outside the crankcase and exposed outside the block. You will need to put a bolt in those holes so that you won't have oil going out when the engine is running. Those bolts need to be in even if you don't have the magneto ring in the engine.
Norm


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