Does anyone have an exhaustive list of the dates of all the Model T parts books issued? Anyone have a complete set? I'm not interested in accumulating one, just wondering.
Excellent question. Bruce's encyclopedia disk has extensive information on parts, with many illustrations, but doesn't present each book as a separate entity. Maybe the HF has a list.
One thing I've noticed, Ford issued more than one per year.
The other club has quite a few on line in their technical section.
Steve: You are correct, but I have a few books not listed in Bruce's encyclopaedic compilation, which is what got me pondering. I know that the HF has a collection of books but it's far from complete. Larry, you are also correct; your stated fact also got me going on the question. I have two different 1916 books, for example.
I also wonder how long Ford made books after the T's discontinuation. I have a 1934 book.
Maybe the thing to do would be for me to get the ball rolling by listing what I have and let others add to it.
So here goes. Please fill in whatever you have. This is for INFORMATION ONLY; I am NOT trying to assemble a complete set and WILL NOT contact you and try to bug you about selling any:
1909 (undated; precedes separate parts & factory #s listing)
Jan. 1, 1911
Dec. 1, 1911
Oct. 1, 1913
Apr. 1, 1914
Aug. 1, 1915
Feb. 1, 1916
Jun. 1, 1916
May 15, 1917
Nov. 1, 1919
Sep. 1, 1921
Dec. 20, 1922
Apr. 1, 1923
1927
1934
I know for a fact that I have these last two but can't look up the date as they aren't with the others. I probably loaned them to someone.
Sept 1912 (inside page states prices in effect Dec 1 1911)
April 1, 1919
March 1, 1920
July 1, 1924
Aug 1, 1926
Dec 1, 1926
and modern reprint of Aug 5, 1928
Forgot to mention the Dec 1, 1926 is a handy small pocket size Parts and Price list, 3 1/4" x 6". 48 pages.
Add this to your list:
February 1, 1917
When Bruce McCalley assembled his listing of parts he was able to obtain and used copies of the "Price List of Parts" listed below.
1909 January 1 (not dated), June 1, August 1
1910 April 1
1911 January 1, April 1, July 1, December 1
1912 May 1 (Dec. 1911, 3rd Ed.),
July 1 (Dec. 1911, 4th Ed.)
September 1(Dec. 1911, 5th Ed.)
1913 January 1, October 1
1914 January 1 (not dated), October 1
1915 February 1, May 1, August 1
1916 February 1, April 1, June 1,
November 1
1917 February 1, May 15, October 15,
December 15
Also a Factory Inventory list dated
April 10, 1917
1918 April 1, June 15, July 1, November 1,
December 1
1919 April 1 (incomplete), July 1, August 1,
November 1
1920 March 1, May 1 (incomplete), August 1,
December 15
1921 July 1, September 1, November 1,
December 1
1922 February 1, April 1, June 1,
December 20
1923 April 1, August 1, November 15
1924 March 1, June 1, July 1
1925 May 1, December 1
1926 April 1, August 1, October 1
1927 January 1, April 1, July 1, October 1
(There are catalogs dated after October 1927 but
they were not included in this compilation.)
He includes the date of the price list, the dates the price list says the parts were used, and his dates for when he believed the parts were used, the price and in some cases additional notes. Below is the example of the radiator:
That compilation is included in his two CD "Model T Comprehensive Encyclopedia"set that is available from:
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/331880/333725.html?1357665853
His listing also includes a few Canadian part numbers. Expanding his Price List of Parts database is one of the projects we had just scratched the surface on before Bruce left us. And it is one that I am still hoping to follow up on. In many cases the parts and part numbers are the same. In other cases like the multiple styles of "one man touring tops" that Canada had -- there are some differences. Or the extra water the export Canadian brass radiator would hold etc.
I cannot easily see the original posting until I post this one, (oops I should have saved it first) but I will post this one and come back later to compare what is on his list and what is not.
And as mentioned above the MTFCI Digital Library has a lot of the Price List of Parts included. I'll try to check there later.
Respectfully submitted,
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My latest Parts and Price List is dated June, 1941. The factory supply of parts must have been getting low. For example, they listed only left spindles for 26-27, and only right spindles for 1925 and earlier. Bare cylinder blocks were listed at $32.50 Crankshafts were $12.75 They still had right side rear axle housings for 1915-25, but no lefts, and none for 1926-27.
I also have a July 1,1931 in an old Ford binder.
I have many others.
I have the following which came from Bruce McCalley collection that are not included in the list above:
1928 August 5 (Price List of Parts)
1929 December 1 (Price list of Genuine Ford Parts, Printed in New Zealand by Colonial Motor Company Ltd, Auckland - Wellington - Timaru, Distributors for Ford motor Company of Canada Ltd)
1924 October 1 (Price Lists of Parts and Accessories for Owners)(Small Pocket List)
1923 September 1 (Price List of Body Parts)
No date Overseas Edition Price List of Parts Ford Model T 1909-1923 Printed by Ford Motor Company Canada
1927 July 1 Wholesale Price list of Parts
I also know many of the Price Lists Bruce researched had been loaned to Bruce and were returned to the owner when Bruce was finished with them.
I agree with Randall Anderson, it would be great if someone could compile a comprehensive list of every Parts List Booklet we know exist. A good place to start would be Bruce's list and the MTFCI Library.
Ron the Coilman