Time to get HENRY out and take a drive to Illinois and buy some of that $1.67 a gallon gasoline.
Oops, forgot HENRY does not have a good tank or I should say no tank installed.
wow ! its down to 2.35 near me in minnesota
It's usually cheaper in Missouri. I fill up at Saint Louis before I cross the bridge.
Gas Buddy is showing the lowest price near me at $2.01 (3 stations).
Well in good old Kalifornia it's still up in the high $2 range. Paid $3.55 for diesel yesterday.
I need to shop around for the best prices.
We have cut-rate gas here in Taxafornia as low as $2.57. Most of the big-name brands are still over $3.00.
They say,"You get what you pay for".
Does that mean the Exxon near my house for 2.79 is better than the Exxon a half mile down the road for 2.57?
I got diesel for 2.99!
Hard to believe, but there are places in Califunny that are still at 4.69 to 5.03 a gallon. Must be near the airports where they can screw the people who rent cars at the airport.
Actually where I get my gas in Carthage, NY is $2.91.9 with the other three station being 5 to 10 cents higher.
I am in Illinois and would like to know where gas is a $1.67? I passed a gas station on the way to work where it is $2.89!
2.47 Here in Loves Park, Bob
$2.16 in Dallas at QT
It's still $2.49/gal. up here in the jackpines of northern WI. Somebody forgot to tell the gas stations that without snow and tourists, there's no one to put the price screws to to fuel. I suspect prices will drop precipitously soon as competition to dump their inventories heats up.
A buck 60 to 2.50 a gallon?
It's dropped a bit in Ontario. Down from 4.80 a gallon to 3.90. Diesel is still around 4.80 Toronto is about 40 cents a gallon more.
Nothing new though, from a country who's politicians consider gas, diesel and home heating fuel a luxury.
Enjoy it while you can guys, I still think its just an evil little trick to slap us in the face when they think we are nice and comfortable.
Well I think it is a evil trick to mess up the pipeline plans. Make it look to expensive and maby they wont build it and the oil will go back up.
But at least for the moment I can go visit family for the holidays and such and not go broke buying gas. 2.44 here.
I filled the wifes car last week at 2.48. Drove past the station where I buy my diesel a couple of days ago and saw it was 2.99. Hasn't been that since I've owned my 2006 Dodge truck.
Got mine here in Cleveland TN. for the low..low...price of $2.13 per gal.
I paid $3.04 for diesel here in Houston last week. It hasn't moved much since. But, the Texas rig count is at it's lowest in 6 years and rig's are being stacked daily. I give the oil glut a 2 year life span so let's enjoy while we can. Jerry.
I've not seen any price changes in motor oil..!
How about anyone else ?
I've never been able to make up my mind, which "mega" industry is more corrupt,.....the drug (pharmaceutical) industry, or the petroleum industry!
I don't know either Harold, I just make sure I take all my medication before I go buy gas so I stay calm.
All I heard was that reported above It was this morning on FOX News so it must be / has to be true.
Speaking of gas prices, I thought that all of the Vets who have not been on a military installation in years, might like to know that there has been no cheap gas at the AFEES Stations. I am sure that if you owned a car back when you wore the uniform you bought your gas on base because it was a lot cheaper. Now the prices are the same as off base and in some cases, when the price drops off base the prices will be higher on base.
Another benefit gone away.
The ND and TX new drilling methods made the US the world's #1 oil producer this year and last. That has caused a glut, so OPEC has let the price slide. Most US production is not profitable at the present $60/bbl of oil, so it will settle out about there, instead of $100+ it has been.
Alberta tar sand takes maybe 40% more energy to refine, so it is definitely not competitive now. It has to be thinned with solvent to pipe it. The pipeline is just the cheapest way to get the sh*t to Communist China, where they don't care about the environment much. If it was so good, the Canadians would be refining it and shipping finished product.
Why the Republicans want to hurt our own US oil production by helping foreign competitors is beyond me.
Good one Ralph.
Don't Grizzle at your gas prices
Gas in New Zealand is US$ 1.53 per litre ( just slightly more than a quart) That is almost US$ 6 bucks a gallon -Karl
I posted this before but didn't seem to go through Gas is almost US$ 6 a gallon in New Zealand -Karl
Whoops did go through
my friend is a heavy equipment operator, and he has been working on building areas for storing pipe for the new pipeline that has yet to be approved, since last spring. it seems some one is pretty sure its going to be passed
gas buddy said $2.19 at Mobil in Oswego, IL. I paid 2.42 in Plano, IL. this am
We are 2.23 but Wenona IL is 1.99 currently.
$1.99 in Oklahoma.
Come to Holland then you can buy gas for 7.00 dollar a gallon.
7.26 us$ for 1 us gallon in France
We get what we pay for !
Hey Toon, I guess it's cheap here at $6 per gallon then ;) (has been at $8 here not long ago, though)
It just dropped below $2 at some stations here in NW Ark.
You folks in Europe must be paying higher prices because you're so much farther from the OPEC countries than we are.
Yes in Scotland we are on average 7 dollars a gallon.
Part of the reason it is cheaper in the US is because we have a lot of it, the infastructure to produce it has been in place for years and we use a LOT of fuel. People who have not been to the western US many times have trouble understanding the distances we drive. I have made four trips to North Dakota in the last two months, 700 miles each way or about 6,000 miles total. The place where we had the auction is further from me than across many European countries. There pretty much is no air service to where I needed to go. My ranch is 500 miles from where I live. I'm going to Washington for Christmas, 650 miles to my brother's house. Not unusual distances at all. My Subaru that I bought in January will go in for its 30,000 miles service in January and I have 5 other pickups and truck that are licensed and used pretty much weekly. That is not at all unusual here. Many farmers and ranchers have a dozen or more vehicles ranging from old pickups to new trucks + tractors and combines and etc. that all run on refined oil of some kind. A friend of mine farms 30,000 acres of wheat. We feed the world but it takes a lot of diesel to do it.
Supply and demand. Competition.
There are two sides to the slide in Crude prices, too. My sister has a dozen oil wells on her land. I have no idea what she gets every month for them but I'll bet it's less than it was when oil was $100 a barrel. (No, she does not share with me) Also, tax revenue is down considerably and the powers that deal with who gets the tax money are having to reduce their projected revenue for the coming year and rethink some projects.
$2.199 per gallon at Sam's (WalMart) 1/2 hour ago here in Kenosha.
I get it!!
They say that when the oil prices go up it hurts the economy.
Now they are saying that when the oil prices go down it will hurt the economy!
Hmmmm - Ok I don't get it!
All I know is that I am spending around $200 a month less on gas.
If this keeps up, I will be able to save enough money to purchase another T in 2-3 years.
What is sad is the price of Diesel has hardly dropped from 3.89 to 3.59?? We all pay for the high price of Diesel if we drive or not!!!!!Bud.
That's strange, Bud. Whether you crack a barrel to get diesel or Jet A, you get gasoline as a by-product. You don't get both diesel and Jet from the same barrel. Diesels compete with the airlines for fuel. The airlines right now are celebrating their $millions in fuel savings.
Cheaper oil/gas helps our middle class but hurts our balance of payments, as we import more.
OT: Some of every dollar you spend on ChiCom products goes toward the extinction of rhinos and elephants. They think rhino horn is an aphrodisiac and ivory is prized.
So Ralph, since the airlines "are celebrating their $millions in fuel savings" I imagine we will soon see them cancel those high baggage fees. Right?
$2.94 US for a US gallon here everywhere in Calgary. The $ Cdn is at about .86 US and 3.8 liters to a US gallon. Much higher in Ontario due to their tax regime. We pay more for gas, but a LOT less in other taxes here and it does pay for our health care
Your economics on the oil sands are WAY off
Let's see your numbers, Les.
The reason gas is so much more in most other countries is because they have universal health care, and the taxes on gas pay for that. ***remainder of post deleted due to political content***!
2.96 DIESEL in northern Peoria. Cheaper than off-highway diesel 6 weeks ago.
We have universal health care in Alberta Canada!!!
I did not read you post well, I figured you were pricing it by the liter, but don't you have about 30% sales tax in Canada, ours in Idaho is only somewhere between 6 and 8%
hit $1.99 here today Topeka, ks
We have subsidised Health care but its far from universal cover in New Zealand ( you could, and my patients sometimes do, die waiting for a funded procedure or hospital bed ) and our gas prices are still over twice what you guys are quoting. Our issue is we are miles form anywhere so a lot of our fuel costs is cost to get it here -Karl
I think the fuel tax here in nc is around .38 cent total state and federal. SOme of the highest around.That is why alot of the border towns go to virgina or sc to get their gas to save a dime or more per gallon. I think it hit 1.99 in sc today,I heard it was 2.34 right up the road but aint been there yet to get any.I am very thankful for the cheaper fuel. It is allowing me to enjoy a better breakfast and visit family and friends without going broke.
And to be honest,some are hollaring about their stocks going down. Mine have held about the same all along.
The Wife just said gas hit 2.19 in town and diesel is 3.19 in Midland.Bud.
Where I live we have 5% sales tax. And not much else for taxes compared to what I hear people paying in the US
This evening I saw gas available for $2.62 US for a US gallon at Edmonton (.802 Cdn per liter).
This is right close to a huge refinery complex (4 big refineries in about 10 miles) so I would expect good prices there (no transportation cost)
Hey Karl, I have often had a discussion with friends form Poland about universal health care, they always claimed the health care in Poland was better than in the US, and they did not have to pay anything for it, I have to remind them that when we first visited Poland, we took medicine to them that their universal health care did not provide, a common cream available to anyone in the US. They always responded that everyone got the same level of care for free,, We have a new health care law that requires up to purchase health insurance (that covers very little for a very high price) Before this law, everyone could get health care whether they could pay for it or not. But things have changed, now you have to have health insurance and money to pay for the treatment.
It's down to $2.12 here in Independence, Mo as I write. Could've dropped more by now. But, the big thing I have NOT heard on ANY news is: If the price of fuel is down, which means transportation cost should be as well, why is the price of milk, food and other needs are still high?
No one has touched on that. The only thing is that the Claycomo,MO Ford plant is selling more SUVs and that gas will bounce back about July 2015 and we'll all be inundated with the hot news item of sheeple complaining again about how it takes a hundred bucks fill the damn thing up again.
Jan 1, California has a new tax on fuel, I forget how much, but it's like $ .25 so our prices will jump up.
Oil is now $54/bbl and dropping. The Saudis are 30% of OPEC and don't care. It's putting Putin and his nation in a world of hurt. GOOD!
When oil was $40/bbl in early 2009, the banksters used our TARP money to invest in oil and store it in tankers at $1/bbl per month until the price went back up, which it was sure to do, due to lack of tankers to haul it to the US. Watch for them to do that again...
I have always been of the opinion that every since the mega oil transport ships came on line is that from every shipment the Government has been getting a share and are stockpiling it in American wells on Government property.
Here's a link to the Department of Engergy's site on the U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserve. There is a link on the site that shows the size of the reserve by month along with the size of any deposits or withdrawls.
I am no economist, but I know that one must look at the entire economy when comparing things between nations. Foreigners like to tell Americans how lucky we are to have cheap gas, but they don't look at other things that we may pay more for than they do. Healthcare is one. The price of fuel has a lot more to do with taxes than anything else. Supply and demand play in there too. I don't have it as bad as Stan, but I do commute 140 miles roundtrip 5 days a week. And I don't mean by bus or train. In addition to some folks not having an understanding how far it is from place to place in the US, they don't understand that we don't have trains or busses connecting every little town.
Reminds me of saying I once heard:
Americans think 200 years is a long time. Europeans think 200 miles is a long ways.
I once heard a guy say that he was in Atlanta and was talking to someone from a European nation. They were saying that they thought they might ride down to Orlando for the afternoon. They had no idea it was 7 hours to Orlando.
$1.98/gallon in Hillsboro, MO this morning!
The bureau of labor statistics inflation calculator says that is 14 cents a gallon in 1924 dollars.
$2.39 here in SoCal HB at Costco for regular this past week.
Price has dropped because of lower demand from Europe and China as well as new supply from the USA and Canada.
Russia and Iran are hurting bad but so are oil producers in the USA/Canada; as mentioned above new production methods used are expensive and at the current price they're making a loss.
I suspect the Saudis refusal to cut production is aimed at the USA/Canada, not Russia or Iran. Even at $10/bbl Russia and Iran will keep on pumping the stuff out as they have no choice; whereas high cost USA/Canasa producers will shut down, which is what the Saudi want for both geopolitical and economic reasons.
A few years back on this forum was a thread in late December, OT-$5.00 gas by spring.
It was a brutal thread with huge animus directed at one person and a political party. If never happened.
Now I read and the analyst say this is a result of the administrations policies. It should last two or more years.
Russia is on the ropes, the Ruble is in free fall and no shots fired. This is a large economy, it takes a long time to fall and longer to rebound. All IMHO.
Just walkin down memory lane.
It's not only Russia that's on the ropes. Europe is in a BIG mess, ditto Japan. Australia is in trouble too.
Here's a great interview about the world situation:
In oily Alberta, Costco is at 0.799 per liter, or $3.02 US gallon, but ya have to pay with a $1.18 Cnd $ to = 1 USA $$. . .ok now I'm confused . . but it seemed cheap when I bought it!!
Hal I agree with the cost of health care in the US. I remember a post where someone got something in his eye and went to the ER to get it removed and had a bill for $600 for a few minutes work. By coincidence I had a patient that very day with the same problem and I removed the foreign body in my surgery. The cost to the patient was $22 and the New Zealand Government paid me another $30. For a 2 min consultation I was happy. I think the high cost of US healthcare in part is the fault of the lawyers. If you practice in a legal minefield you practice very deliberate ,defensive and slow medicine. You also build in a contingency for legal payouts. Both these things need to be covered by your fees. While Doctors do get sued here (and it is increasing) the rate is much less than the States. I have been in practice for 27 years and to date (quickly touching wood) have not had any legal action against me. I hope it continues !!Karl
Your cost comparison for the same procedure in an ER compared to your surgery is a good one. Unfortunately, here in the USA the numbers are even more dramatic. Over the past few years I've had to take one family member or another to an ER a few times. Even when the patient is "seen and released" the bill for the ER is rarely less than $2,500, and the doctor bills separately in addition to that amount.
The financial side of Heath care in the USA isn't just broken, it's totaled and needs complete replacement. I could write a book, but this isn't the place.....
Most of the time when I am going to Brockville, Ontario, Can, I go 1st to 1,000 Islands Charity Casino at Ganocque where I drop my wife and while there I check on the conversion rate and usually convert some dollars to Canadian Dollars. I then go to Fulford Point Trading and get my parts, and return to the Casino to pick up my wife. Usually but not always she has the money in hand that I spent for T-Parts, so I make out either way.
Update $1.96 in Cleveland TN...
Still no change in motor oil prices !
I'm waiting for it to drop to $1.29 a quart I'll buy a few cases at that point.
On topic of med: Charlie Rose recently interviewed the CEO of Mayo Clinics. He said they treat the whole person, and their doctors are on salary, so no optional ops. He said Medicare is all wrong, because it pays for services, not for outcomes. We have always had good insurance, so wifey is sometimes offered operations that are unnecessary, and often dangerous. We got tricked one time a dozen years ago, and still living with the damage.
It pays to shop here in So Kalifornia, diesel is $3.59 just a block from my house. Down in Chatsworth I saw a station that had it for $2.99.
What a difference.
Here in Trenton NJ we have the same thing, The station I go to is around 2.30 but just a mile up the road its 2.85. Im not sure why folks don't just go the extra mile but the expensive station seems to be always busy.I wonder if they know that all that gas comes from the same tank.
Will Copeland--Perhaps the reason is they don't want to be seen putting cheap gas in their new Caddy/Mercedes/BMW/Jag!!!!
Even though it is still over $2.50 here, I went to the station yesterday and gave them $20 to fill the tank. I had to go back and get $6 + some change. I told them, the price was too low now and I had to get change. I usually get gas when it is down to about 4 gallons so that I don't have a surprise going up the hill and in the past $20 did not quite fill it up! Unfortunately, I don't usually have smaller bills than $20 because of the ATM gives it in $20 only.
$20 bills from the ATM used to be known as yuppie food stamps.
Oil is $54 and falling. That shuts off most US and Canadian production.
In the Chicago area it is down to $2.69/9. Better start filling up everything I can find including my pockets!
We saw Diesel in Midland Mi today at 2.99!!!!!!!!!!! Woulden't you know it we had the car and i need to get the 100 gal tank back in the pick up!!!!!!! Bud.
Don't be in a hurry to fill up, guys; it will go lower for months.
I woulden't be to sure RD! I'm quite sure some half witt is trying to start a war to get the price up!! Bud.