No need for speed...TT superiority

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2014: No need for speed...TT superiority
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Constantine on Friday, December 19, 2014 - 01:24 pm:

1925 TT towing a 1910 Hupmobile video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFpUlLzh_zM

Hauling Hay with 1926 Ford Model TT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX-EIAYe7E4



Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Constantine on Friday, December 19, 2014 - 07:52 pm:

Do TTs share the same wheelbase as a T? How much heavier is a TT chassis than a T chassis?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John P. Steele, Montana on Friday, December 19, 2014 - 08:09 pm:

How cool is that!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Henry Petrino in Modesto, CA on Friday, December 19, 2014 - 08:39 pm:

Constantine,

In a nutshell:

TT's are longer at 124" if I remember correctly, compared to 100" for a regular T. They are the same in width using the same front axle as a regular T. The TT chassis is heavier, but I don't know by how much.

Basically, the TT has a thicker and longer chassis, much heavier rear springs, and a "rugged" ring and worm gear rear end. The engine, transmission, radiator are the same.

I don't have the link, but there have been at least a couple of threads on this forum discussing specific parts that are the same and what's different.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Friday, December 19, 2014 - 10:36 pm:

Seeing Adrian's truck hauling hay makes me want to get my TT project done so I can use it to haul firewood.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Spencer Vibert on Friday, December 19, 2014 - 10:56 pm:

the tow truck was built buy one of our forum members a while ago, Dennis Michaud restored both the truck and the hump for the gentleman in the video, who is the owner


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Patterson (AUS) on Saturday, December 20, 2014 - 05:28 am:

You can keep the truck....and I'll have the Hup :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Constantine on Saturday, December 20, 2014 - 07:10 am:

Henry, thanks for the info.

I think I recently read here that someone with a TT was planning to replace their TT worm rear end with a T rear end in order to be able to drive the car a higher speeds. I guess TT purists would hate that but it does make some sense. How easy a swap is it and what are the drawbacks?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Henry Petrino in Modesto, CA on Saturday, December 20, 2014 - 07:35 am:

My opinion Constantine:

There are other ways to speed up a TT. I would not use a regular T rear end. I would consider using the higher ratio rear end gear set and/or an auxiliary transmission with an overdrive.

My TT has a Muncie auxiliary transmission and a low ratio rear end gear set. This gets me up to nearly 35 MPH. If I replaced the rear end gears with a high ratio set I imagine I'd be good for 45 MPH or so. Some guys have a high ratio rear end, a Muncie or similar auxiliary transmission and a rear drive-shaft mounted second auxiliary transmission also with overdrive. This gets them going faster than I'm willing to go on a 90+ year old truck with wood spokes and 2 wheel rear brakes (Bennetts).


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By george house . . .caldwell county, TX on Monday, December 22, 2014 - 10:09 am:

Loved the TT/Hupp video! I have a TT (my profile) and a 1911 Hupmobile and recently sold a Weaver 3T tow crane. Loved the through-the-windshield spotlight and the Muncie whine on the TT sounded like a siren, Ha! Tomorrow noted Model T mechanic Ross Lilliker is coming over to time the Bosch DU 4 mag and breathe the breath of life into the Hupp.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ted Dumas on Monday, December 22, 2014 - 11:38 am:

I think if it were my hay on that TT, next time I would switch to big round bales. Square bales loaded on or off even a TT is just too much work for me.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Burger in Spokane on Monday, December 22, 2014 - 01:10 pm:

It is I who is looking for ways to turn one of my trucks into a "speedster" (more emphasis on SPEED and less on
stirring up the purists) :-)

The key for me is keeping the truck as visually correct as possible, balanced against not humming the truck to
death with vibration or melting that poor old worm gear down on a lonely road a long way from home.

Because that is the plan ... a truck I can roam long distances with.

And Ted, ... there is a reason you rearely fat people in all those old photos and round bale thinking is the reason.
Give up that gym membership, bring in 500 acres of hay the way God meant it to be done, and look like Jack Lalane,
all in one easy motion ! :-) And don't forget the TT truck and the hand operated hay lift to get the loft filled !

BTW - those round bales were outlawed in Spokanistan about 15 years ago. It was shown that the cows weren't
getting a squarel meal.


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