17-20 Touring Rear Body Pic Request

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2014: 17-20 Touring Rear Body Pic Request
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Paul Booth on Sunday, December 21, 2014 - 05:20 pm:

I'm Slowly putting this body together. I bought new sheet metal for the back and I'm a little confused on how the rear panel is fixed to the body. Is it held in by the three bolts from the rear seat back, and then nailed from the bottom?
Thanks,
Paul


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Gregush Portland Oregon on Sunday, December 21, 2014 - 06:02 pm:

Ask and you get;
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Model-T-wood-model-t-project-fresh-title-s-correct- wood-plans-motor-turns-very-compete-/221641581214?forcerrptr=true&hash=item339ad e229e&item=221641581214&pt=US_Cars_Trucks
Sorry I could not help myself! You might add what year and if its the 5 or 3 piece rear tub. I think the 5 piece were spot welded and the 3 piece bolted with the "T" molding between the pieces. If you have a wood cross member in back it might be nailed at the bottom, if it has the steel, then just floats (maybe guessing).


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Clayton Swanson on Sunday, December 21, 2014 - 06:16 pm:

paul, that looks like a really good deal, you should jump on it!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john kuehn on Sunday, December 21, 2014 - 07:47 pm:

If your T is a 17-20 Touring your T has the 5 piece back.

A 5 piece sheet metal back section has the rear center section, a left and right outside curved back sections, and a left and right side section for a total of 5 pieces.

Do you have the original back section that came with the car?

For help with the wood check out the Fordwood website. They have some pretty good diagrams of the Ford T Touring bodies. It really does help figuring out where the wood and metal goes together.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Paul Booth on Monday, December 22, 2014 - 10:24 am:

Sorry it is a 5 piece rear. I never had the rear half of the car.

Mark & Clayton,
I think I know the guy selling this one... He's a cantankerous old man. ;)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Townsend ; ^ ) Gresham, Orygun on Monday, December 22, 2014 - 11:50 am:

Paul-
The rear panel is spot-welded along the bead. You need a long-throw spot welder to do it. I did not have one when I did mine, so I drilled holes about a 1/4" in diameter on the inner panel, lapped the outer panel in place, then wire-feed welded from the inside. From the outside, the panel looks like it was spot-welded in place. The welds were about 4" apart. I make a frame to hold everything in place.



Where the back section is attached is not finished. The screw heads are exposed.

Then it is all nailed on the underside. Restoration Supply has a variety of body nails that are like ring-shank, or wand a twist to them so they don't fall out. I pre-drilled my new panel for the nails.

: ^ )
Keith


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john kuehn on Monday, December 22, 2014 - 02:30 pm:

Great pics of the rear section of your touring Keith.

They really help to understand how the 5 piece rear section goes together.

When I restored my 21 5 piece back Touring I installed the new center section by drilling out the spot welds and carefully brazing in the new section through the 1/4 inch holes I drilled.

I used very low heat and a lot of patience. It worked pretty good.

All of the rear section pieces are being reproduced by Howell's sheet metal EXCEPT the curved corner pieces. The lower section of those corners are being made as patch pieces because the lower part is usually rusted out.

Howell's website is www.fordor.com

Hope this info helps Paul in his restoration.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Paul Booth on Tuesday, December 23, 2014 - 11:29 am:

Thanks guys!
Those pics are great. I did end up with the three pieces from Howell's, (very well made).

I will try restoration supply for those nails.

Thanks again
Paul


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