I've been working on restoring a 1926 Model T Coupe for the last few years. I've gotten to the point where I'm re-doing the interior. I seem to be missing the "seat bar" Red arrows pointing to it in attached Photo.
This is the only photo that I've found of the bar here on the forums. I can't find a restoration site that sells a re-pop of this part. I'm sure that I can make a replacement for this bar but it would be nice to have a few more photos of one to better judge size etc. If anyone has more / better photos of this bar can they post them or point me to them. This would be much appreciated.
Here is the same car at a different angle.
I have some "T" track from an old garage door opener that would make that piece very easily. You are welcome to it if you get over Indy way.
Bruce ,there are 2 types on the 26 coupe the one with the wooden shelf the seat is adjustable the one with the metal shelf is not, and the back seat wood goes to the L bracket on the sides ,.the adjustable has high brackets with a series of holes
if I remember.. see the different types of chelves
I'm not sure what the package shelf looked like in this car.
What I do have is a photo of the new seat bottom sitting in the car (we used the original seat bottom as a guide to make the new one.) and the original seat back and the new seat back (almost complete) side by side.
Hi Bruce, Hope these help !! W
here is the other coupe 26 without the bar,there is a wood section on the bottom note it has wood inside window ,others may have steel
and there are NO L brackets under the window wood
Wayne, What year is you coupe? The battery cover is a different size than the first coupe picture. Did you cut the package tray to move the seat cushion back? Thanks, Scott
Hi Scott, 1927 is the engine year, however I have a registration certificate and licence plate for 1926. I had a conglomeration of 3 bodies to make one body during restoration. All were a little bit different. I used parts from all three, but I believe I have what amounts to a mostly '27 body. The body number does not match the engine number.
Unlike Lorenzo's photo above, I used the body with metal around the qtr windows. The body that came with the car had qtr windows with wood surrounding them. My garnish trim around the qtr windows were different side to side, so I ended up with a tapered gap filler on the RH qtr window garnish to fit the glass.
My battery cover is made out of two pieces of painted plywood. I failed to pickup the original wood cover in a pile of two bodies that I got in Spokane, because I did not know what it was. It covered the whole large open space. Lorenzo's body appears to have integrated piece of sheet metal on the left side where I put a fixed piece of plywood. The battery access hole is where I again put another piece of removable plywood.
Yes, I'm 6'2" so I trimmed an inch off the wood package tray to get a skosh more room in the cab. The seat bar is also set as far back as it can go.
Wane , the picture of he red coupe is not mine I got it from the internet, mine is like this ,I used a full cover instead of the metal in passenger side
Thanks guys for the great photo's!
With the photo's you posted I'm pretty sure My car has the "non" adjustable seat back.
Here's some photo's (first one is the angled mount in the car. Second that mount close up. The third is the only wood piece of the package shelf I have)
The Fourth one is of the new seat back under the old one. It feels like I'm missing something. As when I place the seat back in the car. None of the wood lines up with the angle brackets. I guess I could have ended up with the wrong seat back but I'm thinking that I'm just missing a piece of wood somewhere. (Given the condition of the rest of the wood).
My Coupe has a frame number from Jan 1927, though it may not have the original body.
My body is like those shown in:
Bruce Maley's photos immediately above here and Lorenzo's pink picture.
It has the small wood battery cover - the right side floor is steel.
It has the steel parcel shelf, but this has a wooden front rail - like the left photo in Lorenzo's first post.
There is a wooden rail (about 3" high x 3/4") between the two angle brackets which stick up from the side rails. It is screwed onto the bracket front faces.
As on Bruce's second photo, above, there is an unused hole in each side rail which could be used to locate the angle brackets further forward.
The seat back has three full-height uprights, not two-and-a-short-one as shown above in Bruce's photo. These all sit in front of the wooden rail. So the seat back just drops in, with a steel tongue under its top back edge engaging in the slot in the centre of the shelf front rail - see Bruce's third photo above. The uprights have at some time been screwed to the cross rail, but I don't use or need those fixings
My seat cushion is at the rearward location so its front edge is flush with the steel plinth. But the cushion frame does have another pair of holes, like the one shown in Bruce's first photo, which would allow it to be fitted further forward. I'm 6' 2" and it's fairly comfortable. I can hardly drive a '26 Tourer or Roadster which have much less legroom.
Note that the Ford Service Book shows '26 Coupe seat adjustment, but the photos only cover the 'other' design with the adjustable steel cross bar and wooden shelf.
[The third wood piece of the package shelf]I think is this one on the shelf
Yes; that's the slot for the tongue under the top rail of the seat back. Stops the seat coming forward under braking etc.
I said above that my seat back has 3 uprights which rest against the lower wooden cross rail. I see that Bruce's original and new frames have just 2. The centre upright is cut off short. On reflection, I doubt that this matters as the cross rail itself is not rigid, and most of the rearwards loads into the seat are at shoulder height and are taken by the shelf.
here are other pictures of the OTHER coupe I have[ adjustable with wood shelf ] it is different and some pictures of the seat of the one im working on like yours non adjustable[ note the bar not used]on non adjustable hope not too confusing. .Lorenzo
Chris the#4 is of the hook- you are right, and the bottom rail I replaced it because it was worn on one side that's why the bottom one looks different ,it also the wood on top rail is straight across but the uprights have a taper towards the back his pictures shows he got the right wood for the uprights they seem to have the cut
Thanks guys! It looks like I'm missing the bottom board. I'll make up a new one. While I'm at it I'll also remake the center vertical to the proper length.