i got the word from Susie tonight no more camping on Friday night ,i will be open as long as i can,some like to get the last min bargain !!!!!!!!Charley
Thank you for the info. One question. Did the chickasha organizers decide to not allow pre-sale selling on grounds?
The word was posted a little while back by Donnie.
Pre-sales are fine,..... except any sales by folks arriving only to sell in the outside grounds before the gates open......and these folks aren't paid up vendors like the rest of us sellers.
That makes sense, checking for windshield stickers is done, but some of the sneaky get in earlier, sell, and depart. Not too fair for the organizers who shell out to hold the event.
I'm planning on being there again as usual. I hope the event can go on for years to come. I can live with the organizers trying to have an organized event and expecting folks to not 'jump the fence' and 'beat the system'.
Hope there is a great turn out and folks find that part they've been looking for!
Only 85 days.
I would think the no camping on Friday would be because the fair grounds is not rented for Saturday by the swap meet. Even though most Friday campers leave early Saturday morning, the fair grounds would not be available for someone to rent it Saturday if we are still leaving. That is just a guess, but I have wondered why it was allowed for so long.
my guess is they never had it rented on sat before.charley
Thank you Dan. I agree that it is a rip for non vendors to sell prior to the sells opening
I find it disappointing that some vendor might try to cheat the group hosting the meet. The host is the one paying for the promotion of the event as well as the rental of all the facilities. To me it is not a matter of being cheap but of outright theft of services. For the good of all we should not buy from those guys and send them packing.
Ron Patterson and I were the co-chairmen of the swap meet part of the huge joint MTFCA MTFCI Model T birthday party in Richmond. We had 2 vendors who came on the field and parked and sold stuff without renting a space. I had to evict them when the rightful owner of a space came to me and said his space was already rented. I went and spoke with one liar and thief who said he rented it but it was total BS and it was obvious he thought he could just get away with something by creating some confusing story about having been given permission to come out just for a couple of days but it was BS and I told him to leave the field immediately and stood there while he packed up. I got the name off his truck and kept it in case there was any issue later - there wasn't. I always felt that people were basically honest but he was most definitely basically dishonest. It turned out the other cheat was his buddy and left at the same time when he saw what happened. This guy had loaded up 2 truck/flats and brought them there with no intention of paying rent - I am fairly certain he had done it successfully many times before. I remember the incident very well.
I'm hoping the recent drop in fuel prices might spur some of the more outlying vendors to show up. I know it will help us; at current prices we will save over $300.
I sure hope your right RV!! With states loosing tax money i have my doubts? Bud.
The freeloading has been going on for years. I first noticed it years ago at Chickasha. There was a vendor that had some stuff I was interested in. He mentioned that I needed to buy it now because he was leaving at 4:00. He was proud of the fact that he only came for the parking lot sales. This was on a Wednesday when we were lined up. That also was back when we used to park on the west side in the railroad parking lot. Since the railroad lot is not part of the swap meet it is very hard to regulate anything that goes on in that lot. The other trick the deadbeats use is show up after 4:00 and get into the parking lot after it is open for the general public to park in. Then leave everything in there truck or trailer till the swap meet is over. They put phone numbers for a person to call about the items. That trick is usually reserved for complete cars and heavy items. The Petitt Jean Swap Meet in Arkansas is also plagued by people bringing complete cars and loads of stuff and parking out side the fence on the highway right of way.(the fence is only a single cable 3 foot high)and then selling from their trucks. If there is a way to cheat, there is someone who will ...
Unfortunately there will always be people who try to get something for nothing or take advantage of what someone else is providing.
It kind of reminds me of folks who cut in line and cant figure out if it makes any difference.
That is because humans are intrinsically scum and if not trained to conduct themselves with a
sense of duty and honor, will just be the scum they are instinctively destined to be.
Same goes on everywhere, my wife has rented the same spot by the month at the local flea market for years. 12 bucks for two tables for the weekend. Always there are some folks who show up early to sell to the vendors then leave before the owner comes to collect the rent, 3 bucks a table. I don't buy from them. KGB
My pet peeve is the express line in a store that clearly says "15 items or less" and the person in front of you has at least 37 items in their cart.
Couldn't help myself... "Counting isn't your strong suit is it"...
When it was my turn the clerk smiled at me and said "Thank you".
For the non-vendors who sell early in the parking lot the solution might be to compile a list of those people and post here Non vendors
also appear at Hershey once in a while. I buy my parts at Herehey from those who have registered
and in the proper area for sales.
I just have a hard time understanding why someone would go to the trouble and risk to save the cost of a space. Do you suppose the motivation is simply the satisfaction of getting away with something? Whatever the motivation, it is a form of theft if they sell inside the lot.
I bought many a good item in the parking lot from venders who later were on the grounds with the rest of their for sale items. I do not see a darn thing wrong with that. Yes there might be a very few non-registered venders. I do not know of any.
There are not as many deadbeats as there used to be . I would venture to say that 95 to 99 percent of vendors are registered. It is the few cheaters that tend to screw things up for the majority of honest folks. That seems to be true for almost anything you want to discuss. Grandpa always said "It only takes one to screw it up for everyone". I do not think there are any non vendors in the inside the gates lineup anymore. They check the stickers as they let you in now. Used to be that if you were there before daylight, you could just drive in and start a line. Now they do not open the gates till they are ready to check your stickers. The vast majority of cheaters are in the railroads parking lot or try to get in after 4:00 when the parking lot is open to the general public for parking. The other trick I have seen used is if you have a running car, just drive it to the swap meet and park as close as you can in the parking lot or pick a place with good visability, Then put a sign on it with a phone number and not pay for anything. I always put my "window sticker" on as soon as I get in the early morning "pre- opening lineup". It helps to speed up the entry in the morning. But not everyone puts the sticker on till the gates open, so it makes it hard to decide if the trucks and trailers in the railroad lot are registered vendors or not. But I do feel like the number of cheaters is very small in relation to the number of vendors. But I still do not like it, and will not buy from the ones I know of.