When was "Ford" script removed from cylinder heads

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Donnie Brown North Central Arkansas on Saturday, December 27, 2014 - 10:27 am:

When was the "Ford" script removed from the cylinder heads. I thought it was in 1926, I answered an ad in the classifieds, and may have been wrong on saying 1926 was "no script". I have always assumed,(a dangerous thing to do) that the script was removed on the "Improved engines" because of the col box location hiding it. Im not where I can get to my books for researching it at this time.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker in Sumter SC on Saturday, December 27, 2014 - 10:48 am:

Donnie,

Don’t forget the on-line Model T Encyclopedia. At: http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/E.htm#eng3 it has a page of changes listed for the cylinder head including:

04-16-1912 T401C Added "Made in U.S.A."

And

Other records indicate that in August 1926 the " Made in USA" and "Ford" were being eliminated from the head castings.

Remember the dates are normally the date the factory drawing or the change card which was used for minor changes were updated. It would normally take a while the change to go fully into effect. Did they stop production to change all the molds – probably not. Were there a couple of molds that were the last ones to get changed – probably. And did they stop using the rough casting that had already been made – probably not. And if a branch assembly plant had missed using one of the old style heads and found a month or so later – it would have been put on the engine they assembled at the branch. (Which is a different thread – but did they continue to assemble engines at the branches after the River Rouge engine shop took over completely from the Highland Park engine shop?)

Respectfully submitted,

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker in Sumter SC on Saturday, December 27, 2014 - 10:52 am:

One additional update: The MTFCI Judging guidelines along with Gail Rodda notes that the both style heads (with and without the writing) were used during 1926 and 1927.

Respectfully added,

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John H. Nichols on Saturday, December 27, 2014 - 10:55 am:

Donnie:

I never assume, but rather, I presume.

Happy New Year

John


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john kuehn on Saturday, December 27, 2014 - 11:39 am:

I don't think There was a 100% cutoff when this happened. It was probably sent out to the factories a certain date to stop putting on the script.
This falls in line with the rest of trying to get a date when this or that happened concerning factory practices.

BUT there would be left over parts from the year before that would be used up, heads or blocks that would still have the script on them and used after the supposed time to stop the practice.
And it may have been months or a year later.

MHO


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR on Saturday, December 27, 2014 - 11:58 am:

From Hap's post above: "Other records indicate that in August 1926 the " Made in USA" and "Ford" were being eliminated from the head castings. "

So it sound as if the non-script heads were a '27-only part, rather than '26-7.

Thanks for that info.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Donnie Brown North Central Arkansas on Saturday, December 27, 2014 - 09:45 pm:

Thanks for the input. Mike I agree with your thoughts above about maybe being a 1927 thing. and as Hap states there would have been a lot of overlap during the change over. Aug 1926 indicates the start of the 1927 model year for the change time and most (if not all)1926 engines should have "Ford" script.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gene Nelson - Eastern Iowa on Saturday, December 27, 2014 - 10:00 pm:

How about the Canadian '26-7 heads?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Russ Furstnow on Sunday, December 28, 2014 - 10:02 am:

Gene,
My 1920 Canadian coupe has the original head and there is no Ford or Made in Canada on the head. A 1926/27 head I owned had a casting date of 6/10/26 and the Ford script and Made in Canada were cast into the head. Just my observations.
Russ Furstnow


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Nick Miller on Sunday, December 28, 2014 - 05:44 pm:

I have an early 26 that was in CA. It has a head with "FORD" and "MADE IN USA". I don't think this car had any mechanical work to speak of done on the motor/trans when I bought it in early 1960's.
Nick


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gene Nelson - Eastern Iowa on Sunday, December 28, 2014 - 10:09 pm:

Russ,
Thank you for that info. I will have to get out and see what I have.
Gene


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