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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2014: OT - FORUM SPEED
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Aldrich Orting Wa on Saturday, December 27, 2014 - 12:28 pm:

Is it just me or is the FORUM running slow for everyone?

It still works but it is running almost like dial-up.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Henry Petrino in Modesto, CA on Saturday, December 27, 2014 - 12:33 pm:

Working fine for me. It might be your computer.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Gregush Portland Oregon on Saturday, December 27, 2014 - 12:35 pm:

Mine is running slow too. I think it's because the whole internet system is getting heavy use, all those new X-box's that couldn't be played with on Christmas day and downloading "that" movie. :-)

(Message edited by redmodelt on December 27, 2014)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange on Saturday, December 27, 2014 - 12:35 pm:

No problem with it here in MO. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George Harrison,Eatonville,Wa on Saturday, December 27, 2014 - 12:46 pm:

Seems to be normal to me.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Aldrich Orting Wa on Saturday, December 27, 2014 - 01:09 pm:

It is the only site I frequent that is running slow.

Already rebooted and cleared cache so I've no idea what it might be. If the other sites ran the same I would think it would be isolated to me or my connection but it is just the FORUM that is running slow. And it is REAL slow.

Thanks for the responses.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jay - In Northern California on Saturday, December 27, 2014 - 01:10 pm:

John, Try Turning your cable modem and router off wait 30 seconds and turn them back on for a re-boot of your internet connection. It might help.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By A. Gustaf Bryngelson on Saturday, December 27, 2014 - 02:02 pm:

It is best to keep the speed down unless you have RM brakes


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Aldrich Orting Wa on Saturday, December 27, 2014 - 02:16 pm:

Rebooted everything (sat dish and router included). I can move around the classifieds no problem but this FORUM is slower than a rusty pile of T parts.

I'm sure it will "clear itself" sooner or later.

Merry Christmas all and a Safe 2015.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Wrenn on Saturday, December 27, 2014 - 02:27 pm:

It's the damned Koreans!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John H. Nichols on Saturday, December 27, 2014 - 02:43 pm:

Until two years ago I was using dial up as that other than satellite. Living out in the country, where the cable doesn't go, finally got me to switch to Hughes Satellite, so now everything is fine as long as we don't get snow or heavy rain.
And the forum works for me.

John


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Aldrich Orting Wa on Saturday, December 27, 2014 - 03:10 pm:

I started with Hughes but after several years switched to Dish. Download speeds are about the same for both but Dish has better upload speeds in my experience. Visibly faster.

Got tired of poor customer service.

What I would not give for a fiber optic feed but I'd settle for a T1 line.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Saturday, December 27, 2014 - 08:09 pm:

On my moderately high speed DSL connection, it has been fine for a couple weeks. There were some times after Thanksgiving day that it was slow due to internet traffic.

The way the internet works.
It is a two way, intermittently very active, then doing nothing, sometimes real-time communication system.
On both ends are computers, processing information, asking questions, giving responses. On your end? Your small computer doing a few things, responding to your commands and queries as well as the responses from the website you are looking at. It is connected to your modem which processes and transmits, by whatever available transmission medium you chose, all the little packets of information necessary for your ongoing Q&A.
On the other end? A website. A maybe large group of computers, operating together through a series of routers and servers (devices that gather, bundle, and redistribute information packets from a multitude of different computers or other sources). Different computers (or parts of a program within a computer) perform different tasks, answer different questions, host different portions of a website.
Every question you ask. Every thread you read. All work through some number of computers and routers. Those routers (and servers) also have to communicate through a modem into whatever information transmission medium they chose to operate through. Now, a given website (like mtfca.com) may have a given amount of traffic at any given time. It may be able to handle that with ease.
However. Between your modem, and their modem, is a conglomeration of systems and transmission mediums that few people understand. Your modem talks to your ISP (Internet Service Provider) by way of that "whatever transmission medium you chose". There are a few types of "old school" phone lines ranging from very slow data rate (Hello David Dewey) up to types that will actually run 56K. From there, are newer types of phone lines including DSL (which to some extent operates on old style phone lines, but with a different operating frequency requiring special equipment and is only marginally effective on most lines in the country). Another line is a T-1, a special high data line, usually very expensive. We ran a T-1 line for about two years almost fifteen years ago. The monthly bill was almost $2000. These days nearly all electric phone lines will at some point be converted onto a fiber-optic line. It probably will later be converted back onto an electric line. Every time it is converted? It will go through another modem, router, or server.
In extremely limited areas, direct onto fiber-optic phone lines are available. These are an improvement because they can eliminate some conversions and maybe a router or two. They also run much higher data rates, and eliminate what may usually be the biggest information bottle-neck.
You also could maybe connect through a satellite service, probably either Hughsnet or Dishnet. These have their advantages, and a few disadvantages. The website or their host very likely WILL NOT chose to go through these services for their end.
The fastest growing means to connect to the internet today is through the cell phone system. Data rates are going up, service areas are expanding. Cost? I am not so sure.

I think I wandered of track a bit. But between your chosen transmission medium (phone, satellite, cell) and the website, lie your ISP, and the website's web-host. Both of these will likely have many customers that they service, and that they connect together through a series of (guess what) routers and/or servers. Those things that gather, bundle, hold, and eventually transmit onto the next router and/or server. Most ISPs, and most web-hosts? Are sub-contractors that then connect through yet another host site. That other host site will also have their own set of routers and servers. Some times there can be even another level host. However many hosts that your communication has to go through? Unless you are very fortunate, and local, the final host will need to communicate to the other ends final host. That means another phone or fiber-optic communication line. That means another set of servers, routers, and modems. It may also mean another system to system conversion. That could mean yet another router, or server, or modem.

Your end may be only you. The website's end may be only a dozen or less people connected at some one time. But in between, you are sharing transmission with hundreds, maybe even thousands, of end-users going through a dozen different servers, routers, and modems. ANY ONE of which, could at ANT TIME be overwhelmed by the traffic from the thousand other end-users connected to other sites. Heaven only knows what they are looking at.

Drive carefully, and have a Happy New Year! W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mack Cole ---- Earth on Saturday, December 27, 2014 - 11:19 pm:

Forum is working fine for me at 49.2 kbps.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Doug Kahler- Springfield, MO on Sunday, December 28, 2014 - 01:39 am:

Working good in SW MO 27Mbps down 18 up. I've had slow speeds with the other "T" site. I have time to get another bowl of ice cream!!



Hope this works, first time trying to add a picture. Doug


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Aldrich Orting Wa on Sunday, December 28, 2014 - 11:44 am:

Speed test with Dish Satellite.


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