Has anyone experience with Ray Wells and the new bodies he makes for brass T's? Good quality? Fit well? Is he a decent guy to do business with? And all that stuff.
The bodies I've seen that he made were very nice.
I have a 1914 Roadster he made, and I have seen many he has done, and a Towncar.
His bodies are perfect, the ones I have seen.
Ray has been around and making Model T bodies for years. His quality is excellent. A few other people were making early Model T bodies over the years but they no longer make them probably because they are too labor intensive for what they can be realistically sold for. I assume it takes a while for Ray (or anyone else) to complete a body so you should probably order one well in advance and be willing to be patient.
I own a 1914 roadster body. His wood work is very well done. The tin was well done also, it is going to require a bit of metal finishing here and there to be show car worthy. I found him to be honest and straight forward. I would purchase another from him and not think twice.
Ray is a "stand up" guy - easy to work with and will make it what you want it to be, if not stock. He made the "platform" for Diane's Fire Chief's rig which began as a '11 - '12 Commercial Runabout minus the seat as I wanted to utilize this original firetruck seat from the era.
I had Ray re-work some of the incorrect wood on my 1911. He did a very thorough rebuild, media blasted the metal down to bare metal, and used as much original wood as possible. He did take some "modern" shortcuts, like custom laminating the wood for the seat backs, (which I like because it is a compound curve that will split when you put in upholstery nails) and he used plywood for the "slats" for the under seat hatches. I had to work over a couple of areas that I was not entirely happy with because it was an original car and I'm a little anal that way. Overall I was satisfied with the quality of his work and thought the price was reasonable.
Make sure you communicate very openly with him, and ask questions especially if you want to do anything differently for an original body.
If I needed a reproduction body, I would not hesitate to use his services.
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I called him several months ago to inquire about a steam-bent tack strip for a '14 Wide-Track Roadster a friend of mine owns.
Left a voicemail message, never returned the call.
We wound-up making it ourselves for my friend's car and a '27 Touring. Not that hard as it turns out.
Never get in the way of an Italian with a mission.
Mike is that like never going in against a Sicilian when death is on the line?!? =)
The '15 Touring body I got from him was adequate.
Seth. I wouldn't know, we're not from Sicily.
Had an 11 touring body made by him seen alot of use and was never any trouble
Just remember a Sicilian is not an Italian and you will get along fine with both.
Where is Ray Wells? I'm in the market for a tourabout body.
El Cajon, California. http://www.the-craftsman.biz/
Wes, Call me at 712-301-7172. I have a tourabout body in Iowa.
Does anyone have his phone number? Where his shop is? Does he have a website? I have a friend who is interested in a pick up truck body and bed for a 1915..
Randall -- Click on the website link I posted above. Then click on the "Contact Us" link at the left of their homepage.
I bought a 1913 Touring body from The Craftsman many years ago. It was beautiful and fit perfectly. I'm sure it is still out there looking great.
You can send him sheet metal to use in a body you've commissioned. In my '14 runabout body, Ray only used the left and right Rootlieb body panels. I sent him the door, seat riser, turtledeck and rear body panel. The finished product - and Ray as an artisan - is superb. My only disappointment is that I sent him a '14 NOS door striker plate with the little sheet metal springs and received back something used w/o the springs.
I enquired about Ray Wells on this forum three years ago and the response was positive and that "he will see you right"
I must say that the job on my 1910 Touring was excellent. Ray and his Son were great and also arranged for the paint job and trimming on this triple award winning car
I bought a 15 body off him 13 years ago or so. The back panel seams were horrible, the lower back corners were filled with bondo over surface rust. The doors didn't and still don't fit. They scrape and hit the body badly. The door latches needed tons of massaging to even latch. The fender brace holes were 1 and 3/4 inches different offset from measuring from the front drivers side back and again from the front to passenger side. The fenders just wouldn't go on where the holes lined up. I need to mig a plate over one hole, and bore a new hole. I needed to take the corners down to bare metal and spend weeks correcting. I also leaded over the replacement back panel to get the seams right. The wood curve where the floor boards meet the side also was so far out of whack that the upholstered side panels didn't fit. I wasn't happy at all with the body I got. I also had to borrow a car for a national tour as he was behind about six months from when he said he's have it done. Maybe it's just my bad luck, but I was very disappointed in this body all around. Shipped from California to Mass, I couldn't feasibly return it for repair. Not trashing the guy, I've got pictures of it all from when it showed up to the rust over bondo to prove it. I'd be careful.
Well now... that shoe dropped with a thud.
Again, I don't know the man or want to trash anybody. The question was asked "Has anyone experience with Ray Wells and the new bodies he makes for brass T's? Good quality? Fit well?"
This is my honest review of the product I received. I will never forget the joy I had when I opened the crate and saw an awesome looking body, and then the heartache I felt when I saw all the things I listed above wrong. I was told the body would arrive "ready for paint" It took me weeks and weeks of body work to get it where it was acceptable and would look decent.
Matt, I had him restore a 1919? coupe body. It was all there but needed all new wood and Ray did a great job of putting in new wood and getting it all reassembled. I had no complaints with his work.
I found a similar thread from 2005
Scott, this guy is close to you and you would save a ton in shipping http://www.everettcurrierfarm.com/
I've known Ray for close to 30 years. He has built me an 11 town car body, A 1903 Ford body and has rebuilt a couple of original T touring bodies. I have always been happy with his work and have recommended him to a number of people. He has always been true to his word and is an honest man.