What year car is this?

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2015: What year car is this?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert in Georgia on Wednesday, February 04, 2015 - 01:56 pm:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Wells on Wednesday, February 04, 2015 - 02:05 pm:

Best I can tell from that pic is '19 or perhaps early '20.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harold Schwendeman - Sumner,WA on Wednesday, February 04, 2015 - 02:08 pm:

Somebody will "pinpoint" the year, but I can only come between '17 and '22, unless is has an electric starter, which would narrow it down to between '19 and '22.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harold Schwendeman - Sumner,WA on Wednesday, February 04, 2015 - 02:12 pm:

Oops! Typing at nearly the same time Dave!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Wells on Wednesday, February 04, 2015 - 02:14 pm:

Doesn't that always happen Harold?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harold Schwendeman - Sumner,WA on Wednesday, February 04, 2015 - 02:17 pm:

Yeah,....and when my wife keeps talking to me while I'm on the forum, my "one-track mind" doesn't help either!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert in Georgia on Wednesday, February 04, 2015 - 03:04 pm:

Next question is the guy that has the car tells me its all original and ready to drive. So what would be a fair price to offer him for it? Thanks for the info..


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Johnson on Wednesday, February 04, 2015 - 03:24 pm:

Doesn't the seller know the year?

I wouldn't rely on one, poorly lit photograph to get advice.

Even with the cropped photo, I can see that the guy doesn't have the top put up correctly. The first (very front) bow is in the lower eyelet when it should be in the upper eyelet. How does he know what is original/correct/stock if he can't even put the top up correctly?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Tomaso - Milton,WA on Wednesday, February 04, 2015 - 05:08 pm:

Non-demountables - most likely a non-starter rig.

Pretty nice looking T ! Can't quite see the headlamp lens' but fluted ones started around '21 according to the "Encyclopedia".


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Eubanks, Powell, TN on Wednesday, February 04, 2015 - 05:12 pm:

Something is screwy about the uph. There should be padded overhangs for the front and rear seat and this car has none which is more like the late or early 23s. Better pics would halp identify things and I sure doub't it is original cause original paint and uph would not look that nice,


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR on Wednesday, February 04, 2015 - 07:04 pm:

First of all, it's not "all original," it has been restored at some point. To what degree is a valid question. I'd recommend taking a drive in it before buying. What it's worth depends upon condition, condition, and condition. And I'm not referring to a shiny paint job. It's difficult to say much about it from one picture and no drive.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert in Georgia on Wednesday, February 04, 2015 - 10:31 pm:

This is what the guys add reads: I have a 1919 Model 'T' Ford Touring car for sale. this car is ready to drive and show. It's not a flaw free car but very nice and turns a lot of heads. $11.000 What do you think would be a good offer to make him? Thanks for your input!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By James M. Riedy, Sandusky, Ohio on Wednesday, February 04, 2015 - 10:58 pm:

According to the date stamp on the picture it's almost two years old a lot can happen in two years, I think I'd ask for some updated photo's with a lot more detail. Jim


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Wednesday, February 04, 2015 - 11:08 pm:

One partial picture that doesn't show much detail is inadequate to form a valid opinion. As Mike says, condition is everything. It could be anywhere from six to ten grand, depending on how much it needs.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ex trooper on Wednesday, February 04, 2015 - 11:31 pm:

needs a radiator


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Wells on Thursday, February 05, 2015 - 04:39 pm:

With an $11,000 price tag, it is almost certain he is shooting for $10,000. He will probably get mad if you offer $9,000. It would be worth $10,000 to me if it's real nice. Of the possible years it could be, I would say 1919 is almost certain. Can you find out if it has a round or oval gas tank under the front seat? It should be round. Are you able to get us the engine number?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stephen D Heatherly on Thursday, February 05, 2015 - 04:56 pm:

Just remember there are probably multiple mechanical issues that the owner is not going to tell you about.

Stephen


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Derek Kiefer - Mantorville, MN on Thursday, February 05, 2015 - 05:52 pm:

I'd say it's worth $8-10k depending on mechanical condition.

In my experience shopping for a nice Model T, when they run great, they're not for sale. When the owners get too old to work on them anymore, they keep driving them until they won't drive anymore, then list them for sale with a few years of neglected issues all accumulating into a car needing a lot of work to be tour ready again.

Tour-ready cars just aren't for sale unless there's an unexpected death or something forcing the sale.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Thursday, February 05, 2015 - 09:24 pm:

It looks very good from your one picture. You can tell what year the engine is by the engine number. That doesn't necessarily mean that is the original engine or that the car is the same year as the engine. It could be a 19. You need to drive the car and listen for knocks in the engine and see how smoothly it runs and whether you get a lot of smoke out of the exhaust. If it is smooth without knocking and without much smoke, the engine is probably in good condition. The transmission should also be smooth and the pedals should bottom out about 1 inch above the floorboard. Brakes should be good enough to slide the rear wheels. The parking brake should also work. I would also drive far enough to get the engine warmed up and see if it overheats. It should not boil over or steam when driving, but could gurgle a few seconds right after you turn it off. The price is about right if the car is in good condition. A new radiator will cost about 1,000 and an engine rebuild could run 3,000, so if you notice anything obviously wrong with it, lower your offer accordingly.
Norm


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