Here are a couple pictures of my Berg Turbulator cast iron high compression head. When I bought my T in 2002 this head was on the car. I used this head for years until last year when I had new rings put on the pistons and some valve work. At that time I had an original Ford head put on the car as I had never driven the car with an original T head. I don't drive the car more than maybe 600 miles per year and I have never put the Berg Turbulator back on. I don't know really anything about the Berg as I have never seen another one and no one I've talked with has either. I'm guessing the compression is in the 5.something/1 ratio but I really don't know. The car runs well with the Berg and gets several MPG better fuel mileage with the Berg than the stock Ford head. I once wrote to the people who make the Berg radiators to ask if they had any ties to the Berg head and they said no. The Berg head does add more power than the stock head and starts easily even by hand cranking. As I'm not using the head I would like to sell it but don't know it's worth. Any information on the Berg would be appreciated. I hope I can upload these pictures so you can see them clearly. Thanks.
Cool head with a good design in the combustion chambers following the Ricardo principle
Can't find any info about Berg Tubulator on the net, just a picture of one at the Tulsa model T club's head page.
I wish I had some extra $500 lying around - that's what I would expect to have to pay for such a cool head if it's in good condition and ready to use.
I don't understand, if it adds more get up and go and better mileage, unless this is a judged car, why would you sell it? I would think putting this head back on would add resell value to the car esp if someone want to tour with it later. My .02
Lang's Old Car Parts sells High Compression Aluminum Head, High Style for use with high radiator. Uses standard size model T spark plugs. This head has complete original appearance when installed. "Z" style combustion chamber. 6 to 1 compression ratio and extra water capacity, adds approximately 7 HP, use only with stock pistons and stock T spark plugs. This head cannot be used with high compression pistons. No modifications to your engine are required. Uses standard Model T head gasket. Note: Low style heads are 2" tall and high heads are 2.5" tall. This is the measurement from the head gasket surface to under the head of the head bolt, for $375.95, so I think your used head would be less than that. The USED Cylinder head high is $99.00, hope this helps Mike.
Looks like an iron head, better yet, no problems with two different types of metals expanding at different rates! I would pay more for the iron!
The Z head is excellent in my opinion but it's a common item. This head has some extra value in being unusual as well as apparently adding some performance. I'd expect it to be worth somewhat more than a Z head if it is in good condition as it appears. But then I agree with Mark, if it were mine I'd put it back on my car and enjoy it.
Joe - I agree, plus, no zinc anode needed to combat electrolysis either!
Mike, I have watched a lot of aftermarket heads sell on e-bay. In the condition yours looks like it is in, I would guess it to go for about 250.00 to a high of maybe 500.00 on a good day. I will give you 300.00 for it right now ... if you decide to sell.
I paid $350 for a Haibe Giant Power head recently and thought it was a good deal. It is in excellent condition, and it is very similar to the one asked about. I took it to a machine shop and had it boiled out inside and bead blasted on the outside, then milled 1/8". I now have $525 in it, and it runs pretty much the same as the Z head I had on the car before. But I think it looks WAY cool.
Here's a pic.
I figure the red paint adds about 5 mph top end.
Mike, that looks like Chevrolet orange to me ... but it does look faster.
Donnie -- No, Chevy orange would be sacrilege. It's Chrysler Red engine paint.
You could use Chevrolet orange and call it a Frontenac inspired flat head.
Looks similar to the impregnated aluminum P head that we manufacture. A run of iron heads are expected to be finished at the foundry this week. Then off to machining. These will be impregnated as well. Should have them for Chickasha if all goes as expected along with the proven aluminum heads.
Thanks to all of you who have commented on the head and who have made offers to buy both on the forum and via PM. I'm currently waiting on a call from someone who has expressed interest but is at work and can't call until he gets home.
It looks like no one seems to know the history of this make of head. To Roger, the photo of the Berg head on the Tulsa site is mine. Once the head sells, I'll post that it has sold but will not reveal to whom or the price. Later this year I hope to sell my '23 T touring as well. Downsizing is a lengthy process!
Re "It looks like no one seems to know the history of this make of head." It's been less then 24 hours and the weekend!
Kevin, what are you impregnating with your aluminum? How long is the gestation? Are the heads ready after delivery or do they have to mature a bit? I never realized that was how folks bred for replacement parts.
The head has been sold and shipped. Thanks to all for your comments and offers.
No T nut here knows any details or info on this cool head? This may be a first if this group is truly stumped. I'm sure "Berg" didn't make just one of these.
I had a Berg cylinder head, tried to use on a engine with a Stipe 280 cam..... found out the valves with the extra lift from the cam, hit the upper chamber. Should be good for engines with a standard cam with standard valve lift.
Installed the head on a speedster that eventually was shipped overseas..... engine ran great.
So they made at least 2. Bob, good point about the valves. I wonder how much of that head had been surfaced ground off?
The valve chamber area in the above photos looks rather generous from here?
Erich.... the head lacks the depth needed for the greater valve lift from the Stipe 280 cam...... at least in the head that I one had.