Alright, I am at a loss. I was asked what Ford vehicle this wrench was used for. I have never seen one of these and I am at a loss to even explain it. Any guesses? It does not meet the 1349 Hub cap wrench specs at all. Fordson Tractor maybe?
Also, has anyone seen this Ford marked magnetized folded Iron? What is this and where does it go and what was it used for?
Here are the two pictures
clearly stamped with Ford script in the middle
also with a Ford script stamp
The lower photo is of one of the magnets that is attached to the engine flywheel. When they pass the wire wound coils it produces the current from the magneto. Below is one of the earlier flywheels with the magnets attached. The magnets were simplified and became thicker over time to generate more electrical power.
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Dan - Wherever you found that magnet, there might be 15 more close by!
Hap -- I've not seen a magneto like the one you pictured. Is that a very early one?
Yes, that should be a 1909-1910 flywheel(but not the earliest 1909s). I believe the same flywheel is shown below from page Jan-Feb 1979 "Vintage Ford" used by permission to promote our hobby and club.
You can see the earlier flywheel and magnets at: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/331880/332485.html Note how the magnets are attached.
Note, I should have added to the post above -- if the magnets are not the correct size for a Model T -- then they might be for a Fordson? I have never looked inside a Fordson so I don't know if the magneto parts are the same or lager etc.
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I think some Ford heavy trucks used a screw on cap on the front hubs. Maybe your wrench fits these.
Thank you all for the answer on the Magneto Flywheel!
Anything on that odd Hubcap wrench. I believe that the smaller hex is for the drain plug but the larger 6-sided hex makes no sense and the wrench itself is completely new to me.
Maybe TT? Scott
What size is the large hex?
Not TT in Australia. Ours were all 8 sided, the same size as the car hubcaps.
Perhaps it fits the later AA trucks with their Alloy caps.
Allan from down under.
I will find out the size of the larger hex. The fact that it is a hex is the confusing part.
Sorry, first I thought it wasn't a Ford tool, then I enlarged the picture and saw the marking
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Fordson hubcap wrench?
OK. The hex wrench dimensions are:
Large hex is 2" and the small hex is 1 1/8". Total length is 8 7/8"
Royce, I know. But the wrench is marked with a Ford Script. That does not rhyme. The only Ford I have seen with the six sided Hex is the '999' and the 'Arrow' racing vehicles which Henry built. There must be some other Ford production vehicle. That is what I am looking for.
Why would someone stamp "Ford" on what is obviously a "Chevrolet" wrench?
It is for a Ford product. But, there are lots of other Ford products besides Model T's.
Does it fit the late 1931 to 39 ford front hubs. They had a screw in cap to protect the bearings. I bought a pair of them at a swap meet, they were just too cheap and I did not know what they went to. I asked a knowledgeable mechanic and he told me Ford started to put these on late 1931 A's and all through the 1930's. The cap has threads on the outside and thread into the hub.
I will check this at the monthly Model A Ford meeting. I still believe it is a pre-model T wrench for a Model C,F,B,N,R, S or K or so. Just don't know which one.
I don't think the tools were marked "Ford" pre 1912 or 1913 - Why would a pre 1909 have a script???
I don't buy it - my first thought was for the PTO cap on a later Ford Tractor.
Mark, Good point. Also the first T-1349 wrench was unmarked was made 1912-14, externally I believe. So I believe now that the wrench cannot predate 1914.
I just reviewed all of my photos of pre-T vehicles and although most are not crisp enough to make out the hubcaps clearly, most appear to be octagonal screw on caps. Only the '999' clearly has hex shaped caps. The Ford script logo appears to have been used soon after the company founding in 1903.
No model Ts that I know of used six-sided hex form hub caps.
I was also looking at the Tractors as possible alternatives. But I remain stumped. Canadian Model T's?