I'm just sitting here this morning sipping my cup of great perked coffee, reading the forum, and celebrating the 44th anniversary of my 25th birthday. Thought I'd pass along my adventure at titling my latest creation.( The Farmers Friend).
When I bought the chassis used it came with an Oregon salvage title. About 2 weeks ago I went to the DMV with title in hand for plates and new title. The very nice lady said that I had to get the serial number confirmed by law enforcement. I called dispatch and they sent an officer to the farm who signed off the form. Back to the DMV I went only to be informed by the same lady that she failed to notice my title said salvage and that I needed to have the car inspected for safety. I asked where the local Model T garage was
and she said any licensed garage would do. Back home I went, loaded the car on the trailer and took it to the garage where I have my oil changed. My mechanic loved it. I showed him how to start the car, what all the pedals did, where everything was located, turned on the lights and honked the horn, He signed off the paperwork and I headed back to the DMV car in tow. The same lady at the DMV and I went out so she could inspect the serial number ( for the third time). 85.00 dollars later I had plates and the title came in the mail yesterday. I'm as proud as a new father. It just goes to show that a bureaucratic study in stupid can be entertaining and informative. Harv
Congradulations! Smoke that cigar. Just kidding about the cigar, we both know that they are not good for you but Model Ts are!
Good for you! Just curious - did you license it as a car, a pick-up or an antique vehicle?
Henry, In Nevada cars and pickup's have the same plates. It's titled as a pickup. It was a nice birthday present.Harv
Harvey that's a HECK of a view in your yard!
Amazing how much churn it takes to get things like titles done. I sure am glad it isn't nearly that much headache in North Carolina. We have a privately contracted DMV office in my town and there's a pretty girl there who knows EVERYTHING. I don't know if they sent her off to DMV school or what, but she's by far the most knowledgeable DMV person I have ever encountered. I knew I could go in and explain that I had a an antique car and she'd know what I needed to do in order to get a title and tag - and she wouldn't be confused or make it worse. I scheduled a visit from the local policeman who does that specific vehicle inspection job and the next day I took all of my paperwork to DMV and got a temporary tag right then! Was a piece of cake, especially compared to the horror stories I read about on here.
You're lucky to get service like that, where somebody comes to your place to look at the number. Here we have to take the vehicle to the county seat between 10:00 and 1:00 on Tuesday or Thursday and pay the officer $10 (cash only) to look at it.
Yes!!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY Harvey and Congratulations.
There is not space here to tell the horror stories I have about getting titles. Glad it wasn't more complicated for you.
In 1996, I bought my T from a fellow in Illinois. Because it came in from out of state, I also had to have it looked at by law enforcement. A Kirkwood cop came by the house and asked me what he was supposed to do. I told him that he should compare the number on the engine to the number on the Illinois title and sign a form if they were the same. They were and he did, but not before radioing the number in to his dispatcher to see if it was on the list of stolen cars....
Happy Birthday Harvey!
Steve, Don't your taxes in Kansas pay for VIN id services. Sounds like the local bureaucracy has a good thing going. Harv
Jay, I have never met you but that's a perfect likeness of me teeth and all. Thanks! Harv
Haven't you heard? Our gov and legislature are getting rid of taxes.
Harvey, Happy Birthday. I just have to ask, does Keith's Model T Truck Stop still exist in your town?
Only the Model T casino remains, but it's big and looks good. Harv
Harvey --- After you register your T, do you have to renew the registration every year? And is there an annual vehicle inspection in Nevada?
Just curious how various states compare. Here in the communist northeast you can't do anything without government approval.
Scott, I registered the T as a regular vehicle so it will have to be renewed yearly, but no inspection needed. The state sends a renewal and you send a check. Harv.
Since you said, "how various states compare", here's how it's done in California:
Once registered, vehicles (with a few exceptions that don't apply to most people) must be smog tested every second year. New vehicles are exempt for the first 5 years. Year model 1975 and earlier are exempt. There are no other annual or bi-annual inspection requirements.
Of course, there are many safety laws on the books that drivers are required to adhere to. For example, you can be stopped for a burned out tail light. Law enforcement can then look over the entire car for overall compliance. Potential items that could become problems are non-functioning lights, horn, no seat belts, bald tires, and so on to name a few. Of course also in the mix is the fact that upon such inspection the year of manufacture is the standard used. That means our T's aren't required to have seat belts.
It can get a little complicated with very old and/or custom built cars.
Happy Birthday Harvey C!!! March 4 happens to also be one of my longest time best friend's birthday.
Yes, that sure does look like Winnemucca in the background of your photos. It has been a lot of years since I have been through there, but that is just how I remember it in the daylight (Also driven through there at night a lot of times).
Do you know of a place called "Two Stiffs Selling Gas"? I don't recall if they were in Winnemucka? Or I think it may have been Battle Mountain?
Nice little truck!
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2
Steve, If your state legislature and governor are eliminating taxes you should save a bundle - OR NOT!
When I went to license my '12, there were multiple issues: inherited from my father (pink slip in his name), hadn't been licensed for 20 years, plus I wanted to use a year of manufacture plate. For many years, California had allowed YOM plates, but the plate had to be an original, state issued plate. Since state issued plates only went back to 1914, any earlier plate was considered home-made and was not allowed. But the law changed in the late 1990's to allow owner produced pre-1914 plates on cars. I was one of the first people through the door with my pre-1914 plate.
To my good fortune, the young lady whom I dealt with was an absolute winner. Her name was Mercedes. I had all my paperwork in order, but Mercedes had never seen a pre-1914 plate. I had first contacted the DMV official in the state capital who had written the new law, and had his phone number in hand. Mercedes first talked to her supervisor, who said "no way" . Then Mercedes called the phone number I gave her, had the appropriate legislative document FAX'ed to her, and took the new information back to her supervisor and argued my case. The supervisor relented.
After we filled out the necessary paperwork and I paid my fee, Mercedes assured me that my registration and new pink slip would arrive in about 10 days. But the letter that arrived 10 days later was a rejection notice. It was a form letter with many possible reasons for rejection, with four reasons checked off in my case.
Back to Mercedes....... She saw me in line and gave me a questioning look. I nodded and held up the rejection letter. She motioned me to stand aside so she could take my case rather than chancing my going to another window. When she looked at my letter, it was clear that she and I were WE and the DMV was THEY. She corrected two of the checked reasons as administrative errors. Another reason given was that the plate had to "be authenticated by a DMV official". She said, "Heck, I'm a DMV official and it looked OK to me." So she checked off that reason and initialed it. The last reason for rejection was that they said I couldn't register a car and directly put it on Non OP status. Mercedes went back and read her regs carefully and apologetically said that they were right and I'd have to pay the full registration fee for the first year. So I gave her another $30 and walked out with my full registration.
Throughout this process I was thinking that this young woman was a winner and far too good to be working for DMV. Surely some local businessman would have an experience similar to mine and offer her more money and a better job. Sure enough, the next time I was in DMV, Mercedes was gone.
God speed, Mercedes, wherever you are.
Wayne, Two Stiffs are still selling gas in Lovelock, about 60 miles west of Winnemucca. Still a premium place to stop. Harv
Seth , if you like that view, check the one I just added to my profile. It's facing the other direction. Harv
Happy Birthday, Harv. And, btw, that's a nice picture too!
Dick, I had a similar experience at our local DMV. I got the most competent DMV employee I ever had in my 45 years of fooling with old cars. I kept thinking, "this woman is too good for the DMV". The more I thought about it I realized that EVERY state employee should be this good. We now tolerate sub-standard performance in our so-called "public servants".
Harvey, I wish I was in Winnemucca tonight I would buy you dinner at that Basque place with the funny name, Ormachea's or something like that. The Martin Hotel is good, too. Lots of Garlic and lots of red wine to wash it down. I'd have Lamb chops, dunno what you'd have but it would be good. I used to stop at the hotel every time I went through, used to be a guy who hung out in there who could roll cigarettes better than anybody I ever saw. He drank Royals and would roll another smoke if you bought him a Royal, otherwise he would just light up a Marlboro.
Harv, I misspoke. It's income taxes they're cutting. Shifting the burden to sales and property taxes. Soak the poor and the retirees.
DAng Stan, you know how to make a guy's stomach rumble, and I've already had dinner. Mmmm Basque Cookin' & Lamb too. Is there tongue stew any good?
There's a great place in Minden, NV, J T's.
Stan, If you were here we could spend the day out on the old pioneer trail looking for artifacts or arrow heads. After a hard day of that we would need a good Basque dinner. I love living in the old west, and northern Nevada is still that. Harv.