12 torpedo firewall

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2015: 12 torpedo firewall
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By bob middleton on Sunday, April 19, 2015 - 11:18 am:

Anyone know if the steering column hole is in same location
As lets say 13/14 or 15 firewall
I know the hood is longer


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker in Sumter SC on Sunday, April 19, 2015 - 02:31 pm:

Bob,

The hood is longer on the 1911 Torpedo Runabout & 1911 Open Roadster but NOT on the 1912 Torpedo Runabout. Both of the 1911 Torpedo Runabout & 1911 Open Roadster had the firewall set back an additional two inches further from the radiator. And both of those took a special steering column and lower steering post bracket [the part the steering column passes through and that is attached to the frame].

From Bruce’s (RIP) Price List of Parts CD we see the lower steering column post bracket is interchangeable from 1911 to 1925 on the USA left hand drive cars (there were minor changes but it will fit and function fine). The 56 inch steering column is interchangeable on the cars for 1911 to 1925. The 1911 Torpedo Runabout and 1911 Open Roadster used a longer 60 inch steering column. Based on the regular 1911-1925 lower bracket being the same part number/factory number and the steering column being the same part number/factory number – yes a 1913-1915 firewall would tell you where to line up the steering column hole for a 1911 or 1912 also. Note the steering columns are approximately the same -- the holes for the bolts to firewall changed some over the years, But drilling a new hole in the firewall the column will function on any 1911-1925. The later 1925 columns could come with a different gear ratio but they still will work.)

Your profile says you are looking for a T. If you already purchased one, I missed that posting. If you are looking at building a 1911 Torpedo Runabout or 1911 Open Roadster you can see some of the unique parts at the thread: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/331880/395252.html?1382363916 also if you want to look at some photos of a 1911 Torpedo please see: Under “State of the Torpedo Report II “ [ http://oz.plymouth.edu/~trentb/ModelT/Torpedo2/TorJune16Y2K.html ]
As well as Google 1911 Torpedo.

And for information about the different bolt hole pattern on the 1912 steering column flange please see: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/80257/89355.html

Info on dashes some with a slot for the steering column some without see:
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/29/38806.html

If you are building a speedster – please see: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/29/24786.html for an explanation of why it is easier if you keep the parts from the same year range together. I.e. do not mix the 1926-27 parts with a 1925 frame/body – as it requires more “lining up the parts” to make it work.

Respectfully submitted,

Hap l9l5 cut off


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rick J. Gunter -- Sparta, Missouri, USA on Sunday, April 19, 2015 - 05:22 pm:

After reading several posts on this subject, I am still confused about one thing: Why did the 1912 column require that one staggered hole on the firewall flange? Is the column angle the same on the firewall flange? Does it mount higher on the firewall? Are the the mounting holes on the firewall brackets different?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By brass car guy on Sunday, April 19, 2015 - 06:13 pm:

I replaced the firewall on my 1912 torpedo and used a new one purchased from Bob's. The 12 firewall is a couple of inches longer than the 1913-14.

I did not have to re-drill any of the steering column holes to fit my torpedo steering column.

brasscarguy


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By bob middleton on Monday, April 20, 2015 - 12:53 am:

Brass car guy reason im asking is i want make sure the firewall will work for my prodject witch will have a more stock column


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