Easier Way to Install Hood Spring-Clips

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2015: Easier Way to Install Hood Spring-Clips
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Coiro on Wednesday, April 22, 2015 - 12:46 am:













Once you have the "pre-compressed" springs slid up onto the hood-clips, it should be an easy matter to
add the little washers and either cotter-pins or, as Bob Cascisa wisely suggests, hitch-pin clips.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Coiro on Wednesday, April 22, 2015 - 12:47 am:

... and of course, take an X-acto knife or some other kind of blade and cut the strings.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chad Marchees _____Tax Capital, NY on Wednesday, April 22, 2015 - 06:15 am:

I'll probably forget by the next time I need to do this, but that is a great tip. I know I fought a lot with mine to get them on both vehicles.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Wrenn-Monroeville OH on Wednesday, April 22, 2015 - 07:42 am:

The front one's aren't quite so bad to get at, but this would definitely be a help for the back ones. I'll have to try it when I put my '12 back together. Thanks Bob!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Wednesday, April 22, 2015 - 07:44 am:

Compression in the vise is the ingenious part. That's so simple and easy that I never thought of it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By george house . . .caldwell county, TX on Wednesday, April 22, 2015 - 09:18 am:

Thanks Bob! I've been dreading that task ever since I removed the radiator, steering column, hood cleats and motor from the '27 last week. Great idea!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bud Holzschuh - Panama City, FL on Wednesday, April 22, 2015 - 09:21 am:

Thanks for the tip, Bob. This is one of my least favorite jobs on the T. Maybe this will make it easier!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Dufault on Wednesday, April 22, 2015 - 09:27 am:

See Bob C.,

There IS a silver lining in every cloud!

Despite the travails you have recently experienced,
you have found a way to "make a silk purse from a sow's ear" in devising a way to make an otherwise despicable job enjoyable.

Thank you !


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Hjortnaes, Men Falls, WI on Wednesday, April 22, 2015 - 09:37 am:

Where am I going to find 100 year old string?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rick Goelz-Knoxville,TN on Wednesday, April 22, 2015 - 09:42 am:

I may be dumb on the earlier cars, but the hole in the frame on my 24 and 26 are large enough that you install the springs on the hood shelf and just install the whole thing without all the hassle.

Rick


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Cascisa - Poulsbo, Washington on Wednesday, April 22, 2015 - 10:20 am:

Other Bob,

Good job Bob !! :-)

Another Other Bob

(a.k.a. Be_Zero_Be)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By mark aden on Wednesday, April 22, 2015 - 11:34 am:

Like Rick said if you have the correct washers which are no bigger than spring o.d. you can preasemble hood shelves and install as an assembly ,i always have to grind washers to fit


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harold Schwendeman - Sumner,WA on Wednesday, April 22, 2015 - 11:53 am:

Bob - What a great idea for what we all know is a very frustrating job! One question though,....I have a whole roll of un-insulated aluminum wire, much like what today's hardware stores sells as "handy wire". Could that be used in place of the string? That might hold the compressed spring together even more tightly as there would be no "stretch" as with the string. Great idea though Bob,.....whether string or wire,.......harold


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Coiro on Wednesday, April 22, 2015 - 12:53 pm:

Harold,

I think you're right in that wire would hold the coils of the spring closer together, but then, from under the car, you'd have to get into that tight space inside the frame with a wire-cutter instead of just taking a quick, blind swipe at the string with an X-acto knife.

But whichever material you use, whether wire or string, it'll be easier than trying to compress the spring with the fingertips of one hand while trying to load the washer and cotter-pin with the fingertips of the other.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harold Schwendeman - Sumner,WA on Wednesday, April 22, 2015 - 01:03 pm:

Thanks again Bob. Yeah, one of the many "three-handed" little ten-minute chores on these old Fords that could take the better part of a whole day, and you've certainly solved one of them! That whole area around the hood shelves can be a real pain,......harold


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eric Magyor-Northwestern, Pa. on Wednesday, April 22, 2015 - 01:14 pm:

Bob,

Great approach. Already assembled works good for 17-22.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary H. White - Sheridan, MI on Wednesday, April 22, 2015 - 03:57 pm:

Nice tip. Will use the next time. One thing I did was to put some double sided tape under the wood blocks to keep them in place when installing the shelves on the '24. Also, I had to replace the springs that came with the new hood clips as they were too stiff to compress.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary H. White - Sheridan, MI on Wednesday, April 22, 2015 - 04:06 pm:

Pic of stiff spring supplied with hook.

Squeezing between thumb and middle finger it was all I could do to compress it 1/4 inch and I have strong hands.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Wednesday, April 22, 2015 - 08:58 pm:

I use a valve spring compressor. Put it between the bottom frame rail and the spring. I use a washer under the spring with the compressor under the washer. Then put in the cotter pin while compressed.
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John F. Regan on Wednesday, April 22, 2015 - 11:53 pm:

The main reason that people have trouble getting the hooks up high enough is that the springs are made wrong. There were so many of them that restorers used over the years that prevent you from pulling the hook all the way up high enough to get past the hood lip because the coils "stack" after being fully compressed. I have the factory drawings for the 2 versions of the spring that Ford used. I make mine exactly to Ford drawings except I used stainless spring steel because you can't keep paint on the springs anyway with all the rubbing of the hook down the inside and bare steel rusts. The correct factory springs work very nice and don't "stack" because they have the correct number of active turns, the correct wire size, and the correct free length. They are up on my site if you need them and are even pretty cheap considering the cost of the drawings and higher quality material I made them from. I hope you guys won't be mad at me for mentioning them but it is hard to explain what the problem is and not talk about the solution too.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Johnson on Thursday, April 23, 2015 - 12:04 am:

Original, factory installed springs are very strong.

Just to go to the hardware store and get lighter springs. It doesn't take much to keep the hood down and it's much easier on the middle knuckle of the index finger.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Allan Bennett - Australia on Thursday, April 23, 2015 - 05:03 am:

I'm, with Eric J. The springs available from the vendors are much stronger than needed. I use lighter springs of shorter length from an auto store selection. This is particularly appropriate on a brass car with an aluminium hood. Clamping it down tightly only serves to accelerate wear wherever it might not sit correctly on the former.

Allan from down under.


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