Has anyone see this type of reproduction switch panel?
Where did you get it? Hadn't seen one like it.
I bought the panel on eBay the seller was clearing out his fathers collection of T parts. It is a reproduction but very well made. I was hoping for some information about the panel, who and when they were made and if any others are around, also maybe a source of parts to complete it.
I haven't seen that one before, but whoever did the work on it did a great job. I would contact Ben Martin in Tucker, Ga. 770-938-3376.
Not that it really matters, but it looks like the photo third from the left should be turned 90 degrees clockwise........???
Sure it's a reproduction?
Looks very much like the first '19 switches, with the heavy cast plated lever (missing) on yours. The 'post' on the plate holds that lever.
Seems like its been re-plated or maybe nos?
Here is photo of early Clum switch showing the large font type on the face of the dial. The 'Bat' 'Off' 'Mag' is around that cast lever on these.
Here is later 2-rivet Clum face plate
And after that the 4-rivet version with the large cast lever.
Thanks for the information, I am not sure the panel is a reproduction I just thought it was because of its new condition. Could you show a picture of the back of your panels? I would like to compare them to mine.
And yes I missed rotating the picture of the back of the panel.
Here is rear view of this Clum large cast handle switch.
That looks like what I have. Now all I need is to find the internal switch parts and the lever.
Thanks again for helping answer my questions
Thank you so much for posting the detailed photos and information. It should help folks with an early 1919 starter equipped car better understand what to look for at the swap meets etc.
In Trent's article on Model T Ignition keys [ref: http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/I-O.htm#ip } he noted:
"The second type of key is distinguishable by the round shape of the head of the key. It was a short lived design supplied by the Clum Manufacturing Company. The tumbler notches appear on one edge of the key only. According to factory records, it was used on the first 15,000 cars built with electric starters in 1919. These cars were primarily sedans and coupes and had the ignition switch and ammeter mounted on the instrument panel. Keys were purchased by Ford in series numbers ranging from 1 to 32. Cars equipped with starters came with two of these keys, as opposed to the non-starter cars which came with only one T-5815-A. The Ford engineering records refer to this key as T-5815-BR and it was given the name “Ignition Switch Key” to help distinguish it from the earlier type. (Releases for T-5815-BR) "
And then later he notes that several manufactures supplied keys:
These keys were made by a number of different vendors. On December 19, 1919 Ford specified that the maker's trademark be placed under the script “Ford” on the face of the key. Keys were supplied by five vendors. These vendors and their trademarks are:
Clum Manufacturing Co.
Briggs and Stratton Co.
King Lock Co.
Cabkey Dupree Co (keys have also been observed with Cabkey Dupree spelled out on the key.
Culver Stearns Co.
I wonder if those same suppliers also provided the ignition switches? And if so how much they varied from one maker to the next as well as over time?
Again, thank you for taking to the time to post the additional information.
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