Do any of you know anything about a 1912 Touring which is on the HCCA website ( http://hcca.org/classifieds.php?cars scroll down just before the halfway point on cars for sale). I am looking for a car which is set up for touring while being reasonable authentic.
Wondering what you eagle-eyed guys might tell me. Yes, there's some obvious stuff but if you'd like to share your opinion along with a thumbs up or thumbs down, I'd appreciate it.
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Wonder if he has the doors? That body always came with them when new.
The body is much later than what would typically have come with an engine in the 90,000 range. The engine serial number is from about mid November 1911. The body as shown was being made starting towards the end of January 1912. Perhaps an engine with 90,000 was sitting around until then, who knows? It could have happened.
That being said the asking price seems reasonable if the car runs as good as it looks. It looks nice!
I think I saw that one a bit ago either on Tbay or Hemmings, I think people got scared away from it because as he described it, it was a "survivor" of a house fire, and people probably just aren't too sure of it. Nice looking car. I'd take it if it were closer and I had the money!!
Could be the price is right for what's here...As Royce has indicated, there are 1912 parts discrepancies worth noting.
Ad says original rearend, but looks like a Ruckstel shift lever.
Top looks correct for later 12, but would be secured at the windshield hinges for mid-late 12.
Slab Side body did not use a 2 piece dash, and related to this, the early 12 steering column would not be compatible with the correct single piece dash.
Not attempting to bash this attractive driver...I like it, but I believe these issues impact it's market value.
Sorry for my confusion: Assume Wolford is Warford, where rearend would be a 12 rivet Clamshell per the motor serial shown. I assume this is a late 12 body that could have had the 12 rivet Pumpkin rearend, if in fact a late August/September 1912 car.
I like the red 13 under it that is in Canada!
I spoke to the owner of the 1912 in Florida last night. It was in a barn fire that destroyed several cars and claimed the life of the man who owned it (!) when he died of smoke inhalation. Very sobering. The Model T was damaged probably over 50% and required new body wood, two wheels, etc.
The car is set up to drive but the owner never has. He restored it --- put it all back together and did the paint, upholstery and all that, but I guess is not really into driving much. Which doesn't matter to me. But the killer for me is that the car has a salvage title. I'll need to check but I think that's a huge PITA in New York State requiring inspections by the police and safety checks and all that. How they do it on a 100 year old car beats me, but the seller said that in Florida it was a likewise pain which is part of the reason why he's selling it.
Hope someone ends up with the car.
Are you the same gent who wound up with the late Bud Scudder's 12 Touring?