OT - time to fix a shoulder, and no, it wasn't because I cranked with the wrong arm.... :-(

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2015: OT - time to fix a shoulder, and no, it wasn't because I cranked with the wrong arm.... :-(
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen - Eastern Nebraska on Sunday, May 17, 2015 - 08:17 pm:

Just a little whining. I look forward to spring about as much as anyone I can imagine. Time to get the old Fords out, and enjoy driving as often as possible. Several years ago, both knees needed replacing, and when did we do it? In the spring, and the summer was shot. :-(

Two years ago, it was a hip (replacement), and I thought we beat the the seasons, operating on Easter weekend. However, just a month later, turned out the surgery had to be done over, and there we were, into another summer......

Now, we've been Mickey Mousing around with a shoulder, trying cortisone shots, excercise, no excercise, wine, no wine, and finally, decided at this late date to have rotator cuff surgery. And, to add to the event, re-attach a bi-cep tendon while we're at it.

It's not been a great spring so far. Our old friend Ralph is gone, the weather has been uncertain, and getting the K on the road has been a slow go.

Here's to a better summer, and to my old friend Ralph. Now, I get to have liquor until midnight, and it's 7:15 pm. Hmmmmmm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Frank van Ekeren (Australia) on Sunday, May 17, 2015 - 08:22 pm:

Dam Rob, if you were a horse, you would've been put down years ago!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR on Sunday, May 17, 2015 - 08:26 pm:

Hang in there, Rob. I'll tip one for you. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Page on Sunday, May 17, 2015 - 08:44 pm:

G'day Rob,
I hope you are going to be OK for the OCF in September !!
We Aussie's are looking forward to catching up with you once again.
Hope you have a quick recovery.

All the very best, John Page, Australia.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harold Schwendeman - Sumner,WA on Sunday, May 17, 2015 - 08:48 pm:

Rob - Hate to "rain on your parade", but that rotator cuff surgery is a tough one to recover from! Maybe they've made considerable progress since my "RC" surgery 15 years ago, but figure on lots of physical therapy and a couple months of it! Are you sure you don't want to hold off until November or so?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Barrett in Auburn Ca. on Sunday, May 17, 2015 - 08:54 pm:

Rob,
About four years ago I tore two tendons off my rotator cuff wrestling a leaf spring into an Autocar garbage truck. Sub scapular and bicep tendons. Is was pop sound that the guy at the other side of the truck could hear. Workman's comp wasted nine months trying to fix it with pills and physical therapy. Finally they authorized an MRI and sent me to a surgeon who looked for ten seconds at the images and said, "You need surgery. How long ago did this happen?" By this time there was scar tissue and something called "frozen shoulder". Thankfully the surgeon was really good. This guy looked like Doogie Howser from the old TV show. I can say after the job was done, I feel that my arm is near as good as it can be. Interesting thing is, he did not reattach the bicep tendon where it was, but to the upper end of the Humerus with some kind of anchor. All this while working around my one and only tattoo which happens to be on that shoulder.
It will be uncomfortable with your arm in a sling for weeks afterward, but you can still sip your liquor with the other one. I did. I hope you too, have good results with your surgeon.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen - Eastern Nebraska on Sunday, May 17, 2015 - 09:13 pm:

Thanks guys. Just started refreshment number two, and I'm feeling better already .........

Frank, if I were a horse, I'd have a chance. My wife loves horses... :-)

Mike, we need another trip to Tulsa.

John, I'll be at OCF with bells on. I look forward to creating an international incident with you Aussies in Detroit.

Harold, I thought about waiting, but hate the idea of being half-speed for so long. We only get so many summers, but it's hard for me to put off something I know needs to be done (unless it's old car maintenance).

Erik, mine is from many years of abuse in a younger life. Like you, we finally took an MRI, and the bicep tendon is frayed (about 90% gone) and the rotator cuff torn in the front and back. In addition, like many of the aforementioned joints, full of arthritis. Initially, the first "specialist" I saw last week was talking shoulder replacement. After reading about replacement online, I found a sports orthopedic surgeon who said he would do the traditional repair instead of a replacement (which sounded very limiting).

I'll know a lot more (or not) tomorrow. Surgery at 10:00 am central.

Thanks again, Rob the wimp...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ed in California on Sunday, May 17, 2015 - 09:18 pm:

One foot in front of the other, and soldier on. You will be back in the game soon enough. Good luck with your surgery.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Hjortnaes, Men Falls, WI on Sunday, May 17, 2015 - 09:31 pm:

It looks like they will have to have you holding the stop watch at the Speedster Reunion. Too injured to drive a K up the hill, although I could do that for you. hmmmmm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Gumbinger, Kenosha, WI on Sunday, May 17, 2015 - 09:42 pm:

Rob - Best wishes for a very successful procedure. Hope you're in great shape for the OCF.

Keith


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jack Daron - Brownsburg IN on Sunday, May 17, 2015 - 10:47 pm:

RoB,BTDT myself.3X now. I had my rotator cuff completely rupture and they ended up cutting my shoulder open about 3 inches. Though surgery,and before I got all the therapy done 14 months had passed. The last two were done orthoscopic,and a piece of cake.@3 months and you're back to normal.Hope yours goes well.Just take it one day at a time,you'll make it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mack Cole ---- Earth on Sunday, May 17, 2015 - 10:49 pm:

Well with the other surgery's you have had,I don't need to say, follow the therapist instruction's to the T.
Makes a difference. My left shoulder was damaged in my accident and like in Erik's case, workers comp tried pills and therapy before I finally squalled enough to get surgery. Don't mean to bear bad news,but sometimes that shoulder will hurt as if nothing was ever done. Several of my neighbors told me that and I didn't believe them. But when I talked to the surgeon he said the same thing.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Les VonNordheim on Sunday, May 17, 2015 - 11:17 pm:

Rob, I wish you the very best. I had both knee's replaced and am very happy with the out come. Physical therapy is a bitch.....no pain, no gain.
Let us know how your doing.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Monday, May 18, 2015 - 02:56 am:

I am wishing you the very best I can! As bad as my knees and feet are, I think I will try to stick with original equipment as long as I can.
You need to teach those daughters to drive you around in the old Fords!
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker in Sumter SC on Monday, May 18, 2015 - 05:11 am:

Rob,

Sorry to hear you need the surgery. So thankful we live today when the doctors can do so much more than just a 100 years ago. We will be praying for you and the doctors that the surgery is successful, the recovery goes well, and that you are much better afterwards.

Perhaps this may be an opportunity for some additional one armed research on line? Or perhaps a visit to one of the archives?

Respectfully submitted,

Hap l9l5 cut off


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Hatch on Monday, May 18, 2015 - 05:34 am:

Rob: Does this mean you will now be "Set up for Touring" :-) Good luck, Dan.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tony Howard on Monday, May 18, 2015 - 07:27 am:

Rob.. I'm booked in to have the same shoulder job done in mid June... that's half way through our winter in Australia, but I'm not excited about the prospect of being incapacitated for a few months after.. the way I figure it is this, that if they can stop the niggling pain even if the movement doesn't improve I can at least return to fixing stuff without the inconvenience of having to quit when it gets too damned uncomfortable!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ned Protexter on Monday, May 18, 2015 - 08:57 am:

Rob,

When you can please give me a call or let me know when I can call you. I need to have the same thing done and am looking for a good DR for the job. I'm guessing you're having it done in Omaha or Lincoln so that isn't far for me.

I hope it goes alright for you and best wishes.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mack Cole ---- Earth on Monday, May 18, 2015 - 09:10 am:

Tony, It will not end all pain in that shoulder. It will help but not end it.
Mobility, on the other hand, like was said, no pain no gain. I can lift my left arm up about 60% of what the right 1 goes unless I reach over and grab it and pull it up then it hurts!. Strength wise, long as it is not over head, arm is as strong as it ever was.
Grip, as the surgen warned me,some nerves got scuffed a bit in surgery and it affects grip and control some times if holding small things or working levers. For example on my Zero turn lawnmower I slide the left wheel alot more than the right because even though it feels like I am putting the same effort to it, apparently I aint.

Others may talk to their docs about this but I was informed later by a nurse that this surgery only "last" about 10 years and the joint can fail again in the same way.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Fred Dimock, Newfields NH, USA on Monday, May 18, 2015 - 09:57 am:

Rob, If you have anything else replaced you will be completely rebuilt and ready for another 200,000 miles. :-)

Hoping you feel good soon!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Gruber- Spanaway, Wash. on Monday, May 18, 2015 - 10:37 am:

This'll fix you up good as new!
Just do what the doc says.
Wishing you a speedy recovery.
One good thing is you'll have more time to research pre-Ts.
Interesting stuff.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Paul Vitko on Monday, May 18, 2015 - 11:11 am:

After seventy two years of no pain and no pills two weeks past my lower left leg went brain dead. At least half a dozen expensive tests later Doctors are not truly sure why but I will stick to a few drinks a day for medicine.
Wish all those needing better health are blessed with it! I have to be careful forgetting my walker ten feet from where I am standing.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harold Schwendeman - Sumner,WA on Monday, May 18, 2015 - 12:53 pm:

Mack - I don't know how you can be so sure how Rob's surgery will turn out. It might be that your injuries and Rob's are not quite the same. I can honestly say that prior to my surgery, I was suffering a lot of pain in my shoulder due to a torn RC and had very limited range of movement, and right now, 15 years after my surgery to repair the torn rotator cuff and removal of bone spurs, I have to think very hard to remember which shoulder it was. I have absolutely no pain whatsoever, and full range of motion, even now at age 73. Not trying to be "disagreeable" Mack,.....just thought I'd relate my very positive experience so as to give Rob some hope for a 100% recovery like mine,.....FWIW,......harold


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mack Cole ---- Earth on Monday, May 18, 2015 - 03:08 pm:

Yea, I came across a little harsh and I am sorry.
But my surgeon was honest with me and made sure I understood the chances.
And in my case he was right. Dr Jasmin,carolina orthopedics.
Some folks I talk to have had the same luck as you Harold and that is a good thing.And Yes I wish Rob a speedy recovery.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kenneth W DeLong on Monday, May 18, 2015 - 04:09 pm:

Rob,What Keith G Said!!!!!!!!!!! Bud.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eric Hylen- Central Minnesota on Monday, May 18, 2015 - 05:40 pm:

So, now that you're becoming the bionic man, are you going to change your name the Steve Austin and go back to fighting crime?

Keep the chin up. I look forward to seeing you (and the 6-40) in August.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Seth - Ohio on Monday, May 18, 2015 - 06:12 pm:

Rob,

Wishing you the best and a speedy recovery. I am willing to make the sacrifice and keep your cars lubed up for you by driving them around until you are completely recovered.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Seth - Ohio on Monday, May 18, 2015 - 06:18 pm:

Oh and I forgot to add that I will also sacrifice my self to open your beer for you. Of course you understand it's a two to one operation...for every one I open for you I open two for me! :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen - Eastern Nebraska on Tuesday, May 19, 2015 - 06:56 am:

Thank you all. I feel like this is my "other" family, and appreciate your friendship beyond words!

A quick update on the surgery. Turned out to be more to do than expected, one bicep tendon re-attached to the bone, the second repaired(?). Instead of 3 incisions, 5, with more tears repaired. Now begins rehab.

Thank you again, and enjoy your summer (as will I).

Now, on to the Speedster Reunion in June. (yes Dave, you may drive if it's ready, at least a bit :-)), New London to New Brighton, Dearborn to Lansing, Old Car Festival and Hershey. For those who may recall, I drove our N on the New London tour by myself six weeks to the day after double knee replacement (with crutches on board). I'll be there......

Let the games begin...... :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Hjortnaes, Men Falls, WI on Tuesday, May 19, 2015 - 08:12 am:

Good luck on a fast recovery. Remember beer has a lot of nutritious ingredients.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Hughes, Raymond, NE on Tuesday, May 19, 2015 - 09:05 am:

Hey Rob. Sorry to hear about your troubles. If there is ANYTHING that I can do to help you out give me a call. I mean it!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen - Eastern Nebraska on Tuesday, May 19, 2015 - 11:21 am:

Steve, thank you. I'll give a call if necessary. Hope to see you at one of our old car events soon.

Dave, as this 1908 ad shows, Storz of Omaha recognized the health benefits of beer. The Storz family, coincidentally owned a K roadster that still exists:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Gumbinger, Kenosha, WI on Tuesday, May 19, 2015 - 01:30 pm:

Rob - is that an omen? Storz, the health benefits of beer, and a Model K?

Is that calling you to drink beer during your recuperation to dull the pain, so you'll be able to drive your N and K sooner?

What a connection...

Keith


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen - Eastern Nebraska on Tuesday, May 19, 2015 - 01:43 pm:

Keith, I actually limit to one glass of red wine per day (evening). However, what happens on tour stays on tour....

The block has worn off and I'm feeling pretty "edgy." I doubt any amount of booze would help now..... :-(

Therapy begins tomorrow (although the forum is my therapy now).


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Noel D. Chicoine, MD, Pierre, SD on Tuesday, May 19, 2015 - 02:08 pm:

Rob, like everybody above said. Stay diligent with the rehab and you'll have a better shoulder than you had to start. Teresa had hers fixed after tearing 3 of the 4 muscles completely off, with one partially torn for 3-4 years. She's now overhead painting, lifting, and has NO discomfort in that shoulder. The rehab is the key, along with a good surgeon! Good luck and our prayers are with you.
Noel


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Gumbinger, Kenosha, WI on Tuesday, May 19, 2015 - 02:33 pm:

Dr. Noel gives good advice! :-)

Kinda like the voice of experience....

Keith


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Tuesday, May 19, 2015 - 02:45 pm:

Been thinking of you! Like everyone else says, follow the therapy instructions and do the exercises right! That and attitude is everything. So be careful with that feeling "edgy" (although due to meds, some of that is unavoidable).
Drive carefully, and do enjoy! W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen - Eastern Nebraska on Tuesday, May 19, 2015 - 10:15 pm:

Doc, I'm glad to hear Teresa is having good luck with her procedure. So far, so good. I've been told by friends that have had rotator cuff repair that it's the most painful (of the joints). At this point, not too bad. I still remember the two knees so this has been less painful, and I'm mobile. The block wore off during the night, and I'm trying to limit the Percocet, so by edgy I mean I probably won't sleep well, but certainly not unbearable.

Ned, I used Nebraska Orthopedic. I first had contact with their founder, Dr. pat Claire, forty years ago as a college football player with a torn meniscus. Since then, they've done all of the procedures I mentioned above. I've been told Lincoln Ortho is good too, and I'm sure Omaha has several good clinics. After my return visit on June 2nd I'll send a pm to you on my opinion of the Doctor we went with. So far I'm impressed. Also, unlike my other surgeries, it was a quick in and out process. I went in at 10:00 a.m., and we were on the way home around 2:00 p.m..

Thanks again guys, have a good week,
Rob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kenneth W DeLong on Tuesday, May 19, 2015 - 10:41 pm:

Rob,Get well asap but will the 640 start on the switch?? If only to me it would be a sin to put a self commencer on a car like that!!!! Bud in Wheeler,Mi.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ned Protexter on Wednesday, May 20, 2015 - 08:47 am:

Thanks for the reply Rob. I'm going in today to a sports therapist (chiropractor) to see if there is anything he can do to try to avoid surgery. I'm starting to wonder if mine is just out of alignment or a pulled muscle but it has been hurt for over a month now.

Best wishes on your recovery.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen - Eastern Nebraska on Wednesday, May 20, 2015 - 11:22 am:

Ned,
I tried several things and finally had an MRI. If insurance allows, I'd recommend that so you know for sure.

Bud,
we plan to leave the 6-40 "unmolested" with no "self commencer." However, with fresh pistons/rings and rod bearings, it may be a little tough for Dean to crank for a while..... :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith on Wednesday, May 20, 2015 - 11:22 am:

If you have a torn rotator, the first few days are the worst, and then it gets better, especially if you have physical therapy. After two months, I was pretty much back to normal. The booze does help too!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Hughes, Raymond, NE on Wednesday, May 20, 2015 - 03:07 pm:

Rob, What doctor did your surgery? It was Dr. David Clare that repaired my rotator cuff and bone debriedment. That was after breaking the shoulder skiing. My recovery was complete, and like Harold, I can not tell which arm it was. PT was a bitch for a while though. I thought for a while that "PT" stood for "pain and torture".


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jack Daron - Brownsburg IN on Wednesday, May 20, 2015 - 03:14 pm:

Booze doesn't help,but you don't give a Damn.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eric Sole - Castelldefels (Spain) on Wednesday, May 20, 2015 - 06:11 pm:

Here in Barcelona if you want a beer you have to give a "Damm". That's the local brewery's name!

(http://www.damm.es/) :-)


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