I'm installing Model A wheels on my 26 T and will have 4 really good wood spoke wheels painted black for sale including hubs and drums. Small or large drums in the near future. My question is can I reuse my tubes and flaps from my wood wheels in the wire wheels. Both sets of wheels are 21". My steams are rubber not metal. FYI...The local powder coater wants $55 a wheel to blast and powder coat. If you blast it's $40 a wheel to powder coat. Have a great day. Bob
Bob, are you making headway on making your own adapters?
John, I Can't make them for what they cost to buy. 3 different suppliers for the 1" steel disc, 7 1/2" diameter, are within $6 of each other at $80 each. Then I have the drilling and taping plus the bolts and studs to buy. I can buy the adapters for $538 including shipping. Sorry, no royalty checks coming your way. I really appreciate the info you sent me. Bob
I can buy the adapters for $538 including shipping.
I'm about to buy a set, but which vendor sells them for this price? I've only been able to find them for about $40 -$50 more than that.
Rob, Model T Ranch has them for $490 plus $48 shipping in USA. I can give you their # and address if you can't find them. Bob
If the tires which were taken off are 21" and the Model A rims are for 21". Yes you can use the tires and tubes, however not the flaps. The A rim should have a rubber strip around the center to prevent friction between the rim and the tube, but you don't use any flaps inside the tire itself. The later Model A's came with 19" wheels. If you are using 19", the tires won't fit.
Thanks Norm, So the stem doesn't really matter if it's rubber or metal? All wheels are 21" that I'm using. Bob
Bob, my tubes just have regular rubber stems and I think your set up will be essentially the same as mine. In fact I think one of my tubes is a 19 and that seems to be ok as well. The little wire wheel liner/bands are inexpensive compared to the ones for wood wheels as I recall. That is a good price for the adapters--I paid about 600 plus shipping.
I've dealt with John several times in the past. I just plain forgot that made them.
Tires tube interchange I would use nes rim liners as the flaps won't
We adapters I'm using off the self items get them online for under $50 a wheel or less
We had four 1 1/4" discs plasma cut for $120.
Yep lu k enouf get a shop local who makes adapters for any kind of wheel
His pricing willgo up he told me he currently making a set for my tt using A wheels and later will make ones for AA wires
Just bought a set of 4 adapters that will come with the lug bolts installed for the model A wheel pattern of 5 on 5 1/2" bolt centers. The other holes are 5 on 5" bolt pattern and I will redrill 4 holes in the hubs and brake drums. There will not be any existing holes interference.
The total cost of the 4 adapters was $109 shipping free. I'll spin the hub in my lathe with the adapter bolted thru one existing hole. I'll true the hub and adapter while spinning, stop and center punch the additional 4 holes. I knew there had to be a better way than spending $550 on Langs' adapters. Thanks again to everyone here. Bob
Bob, sounds essentially what I did on my T doodlebug, I converted all four wheels to 6x5.5" pattern using "modern" adapters so I could use some Chevy wheels. I clamped them in place, dial indicted them to within a few thousandth runout and pinned them with 1/4" roll pins and bolted them in place.
I'm using 5x4.5 on the front hubs and 5x 5.5 on rears
I be drilling my h7bs with the same machine that drills the adapters folks buy
I have cut the aluminum disks at 1.25 and made centers fit the wood wheel hubs leaving a loose .slip tollarance and bevel allowing for the tapper on the hub these are one offs as each hub was differance this will help center and weight is on the center hub
My next step put in studs and drill the hols should be done another weeks
I've completed the installation of my model A wheel adapters to my 26 model T hubs. It took Dennis and I about 4 hours this morning to install the adapters. My wheels should be finished at the powder coater first of next week. Thanks again to everyone on here that offered valuable information. Bob
That looks like nice workmanship. Be aware that spacing your front wheels out will affect the camber. It won't change the camber angle, but it will move the tire contact patch off the centerline of the kingpin. This can cause some bad feedback if you get a front wheel in soft sand or drop if off a pavement edge. By "bad feedback" I mean, can yank the steering wheel out of your hands.
Jerry, Due to the offset of the model A wheels, The contact patch is almost identical to the wood wheels. The drum of the model a wheel completely covers the adapters. I however appreciate your concern and input. I'll keep an eye on it. Bob
A spacer at 1.25 measure pretty close centerline of my old wood wheels and my 21" A wheels
But jerry is correct is to far or to narrow can cause I'll effects with steering in certain time as well as more stress on rear axel bearings if the rear wheels are set to far
I have get my hardware and should be done hardest part is keeping the wheel centered and concentric in its rotation
Sounds like you've got it handled. Have fun.