Yes I put it on the wrong side

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Colin Mavins Winnipeg,Canada on Saturday, August 01, 2015 - 08:57 am:

we here in manitoba have had 2 bad semi related accidents in as many months first was a semi drive took a corner to fast and dropped his trailer on a 1970 AMX. Last week end a semi driver rear ended one of our local club members. The AMX driver walked away with out a scratch, the model t driver is still in hospital.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John C Codman on Saturday, August 01, 2015 - 10:24 am:

That stinks.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker in Sumter SC on Saturday, August 01, 2015 - 10:24 am:

Colin,

Thank you for posting the information. We will keep the T driver in our thoughts and prayers.

In the aircraft fighter community they have a phrase "Check Six" because the enemy airplanes like to attack you from the "six o-clock" position. When driving our Ts (as well as the modern cars) it is also a good phrase to remember. Even in my modern car I have turned off the roadway to let someone who was following really close in their car, while they were talking on their cell phone, and appeared to be a young driver.

Flashing lights, signs, etc. may be an alternative to consider -- as the rear ended T accident is one of the more common ones reported on our forum. I have also wondered if some of the Ts that are rear ended and that flip, if the car flips because the rear end is lifted and now the front steering has negative caster so it goes “hard over”? Some day, I plan to jack the rear of the T up and see how high it has to be lifted to change the caster from 5 1/2 degrees positive to a negative caster. “IF” that is contributing to the car flipping, then perhaps a rear bumper that would reduce the likely hood of the rear of the car being lifted up, "might" reduce the number of Ts that are flipped during a similar rear end accident?

Again we wish a speedy recovery for the Model T driver.

Respectfully submitted,

Hap l9l5 cut off


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Constantine in Australia on Saturday, August 01, 2015 - 11:01 am:

If you drive on roads where the limit is 50mph or more then you want to have something like one of these at the back:

http://www.forestry-suppliers.com/product_pages/Products.asp?mi=73481&itemnum=91 265

Comes off easy with magnetic base and is battery powered which means no wires...and it WILL reduce the chance of you and your family being hit and killed or severely injured.

MTFCA/MTFCI should insist cars on their tours have them. Not in the T hobby interest for media reports of T drivers being run over I would think...not to mention common sense to have one since our cars are slow and have no seat-belts, airbags, etc. plus these light are cheap.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Saturday, August 01, 2015 - 11:13 am:

In this Manitoba crash the truck driver has no excuse. The Trans-Canada Highway at this location is four lanes and divided, so he had plenty of room to pass. It's flat country with an unobstructed view of the highway far ahead. Unless there was a posted minimum speed and the T was under the limit, all the legal onus is on him.

BUT...

There are frontage roads and other parallel roads at this location. It would have been wise for the T to be on one of them. Having the law on your side may not keep you alive. Not making yourself a target might.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Saturday, August 01, 2015 - 11:24 am:

I should have mentioned that the Manitoba incident occurred around 4 PM in full daylight. I agree that lights and other accessories to make your T conspicuous are a good idea, but in this case I doubt that they would have mattered.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Garnet on Saturday, August 01, 2015 - 12:03 pm:

There can be a mix of events that lead to an unfortunate outcome. I've had my racer on the TransCanada highway a lot. If You can't keep up to a respectable speed in the first place, you really shouldn't be on the highway. Another contributor is people who slow down to take a look as they pass - not realizing there's a truck bearing down on them from behind. The worst situation is the person creeping up behind you who doesn't pull out to pass until the last second leaving the people following them suddenly bearing down you you - usually with no other place to go because someone is also passing them!

When driving any vehicle that's running slower than the flow of traffic, you have to pay attention to traffic behind you and adjust your speed to allow them to pass without hindering them.

At 60 mph, my racer runs quite nice down the highway, but I'm still running 10 mph below the speed limit and probably 20+ mph below the people that are in a hurry.

The highways in my area are bad enough now that I don't take the racer out anymore. If it ever gets paved then I'll be back out and watching for the bad situations before they turn into disastrous ones.

It's hard to say what happened in the Manitoba incident, but there's more to the story than just an upside down Model T.


As others say, drive carefully.

Regards,
Garnet in So-Sask


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Constantine in Australia on Saturday, August 01, 2015 - 02:46 pm:

<b><font >I also like this new product...reflective SMV sign that has it's own lighting and can flash; uses 12V:

http://www.safelites.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/BrightZoneSafetySign030 705b.pdf

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Safe-Lites-Safety-Slow-Moving-Vehicle-Sign-With-GlowSkin -Technology-SMV/300928737556?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Constantine in Australia on Saturday, August 01, 2015 - 02:48 pm:

I also like this new product...reflective SMV sign that has it's own lighting and can flash; uses 12V:

http://www.safelites.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/BrightZoneSafetySign030 705b.pdf

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Safe-Lites-Safety-Slow-Moving-Vehicle-Sign-With-GlowSkin -Technology-SMV/300928737556?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary H. White - Sheridan, MI on Saturday, August 01, 2015 - 05:55 pm:

Constantine, In most US states use of yellow or amber lights are restricted to vehicles such as postmen, snowplows, oversize load escorts, construction vehicles, etc. Triangle signs are restricted to farming vehicles.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Constantine in Australia on Saturday, August 01, 2015 - 06:22 pm:

Gary, same in the state of VIC in Australia but I'd rather risk a fine than be killed or seriously injured. That $45 amber strobe light could very well catch the eye of a driver behind you trying to send a text message or reading an email on their iPhone...as you said a flashing amber light is an instant red flag for drivers there's danger ahead and a strobe light is hard to miss unlike a solid red rear stop light. Anyway, police, in Australia at least, would very unlikely fine a Model T for using one. I say use one regardless of whether it's technically illegal...most police and other drivers will thank you for using it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Killecut on Saturday, August 01, 2015 - 10:11 pm:

Hap, I have thought about the T steering being a possible cause of them rolling over in these instances. I wonder if a stabilizer would help.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bud Holzschuh - Panama City, FL on Saturday, August 01, 2015 - 10:49 pm:

Constantine

Totally agree. I use a reflective triangle and a flashing amber light both night and day. Numerous law enforcement officers have seen it, none have stopped me (including one time when a rear door opened on a turn and threw out a antifreeze bottle literally in front of a sheriff's car).

I may get a warning ticket some day, but until then it's cheap insurance.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kevin Holland, Utah on Sunday, August 02, 2015 - 01:32 pm:

Frontage or side roads. You can call the department of motor vehicles and ask them to give you a slow vehicle route for your load. Sometimes it helps not to tell them it is a T; but it is a agriculture truck and not a semi.


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