I should have paid more attention

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2015: I should have paid more attention
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jan brinkman jr on Sunday, August 02, 2015 - 11:34 pm:

I've been playing with "A's and T's for the past 43 years . I found a 1930 "A" pickup first . I saved up and got it for $650.00 .after a week of freeing things up I got it running and had a lot of fun with it . I traded it off for a 26 T Turing coverted into a truck.( that I still have ) . Then a few things got in the way . Like girls , kids, house, and work. I was able to collect a lot of parts and a few more projects along the way . Well now that I think I have time to build a couple of them I relize that I did not PAY ENOUGH ATTION to the older guys that were working on their stuff.
The first project on the list is a "T" speedster . I have a good pile of engines , frames, rear ends , even a couple over heads and some windfeild stuff.
So here is were the problem is . I don't know some of the basics and I'm sure there are lots of options . Like should I go with insert rods or spend the extra on a aftermarket crankshaft. Should I put the ruxstull in or just go stock reared .Keep in mind I don't have the deepest pockets but I don't want to do the twice either.
Has anyone put a book together with some of the advice that they would have to offer for doing some of these things ?
I appreciate the advice form who has been down this road and is willing to share.
Thanks Jan.
I will try to put up a picture of the latest acquisition that has inspired this project.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Hjortnaes, Men Falls, WI on Sunday, August 02, 2015 - 11:54 pm:

I have a speedster with 3:1 rear end, and no magnets. It will go over 60mph, but I cruise at about 40. Don't need more than that. It also has a distributor. In a lot of ways I wish it had coils.

IF you want to climb hills you can add an overhead RAJO or Fronty.

Do you want to tour or compete?

Simple or Fancy?

Look at speedster photos on the mtfca website and choose a body style. Then work around that.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker in Sumter SC on Monday, August 03, 2015 - 07:14 am:

Jan,

Welcome to the forum! A good place to start would be to join one of the local clubs. Many of them have speedsters in them that you can look at. There is no right or wrong speedster – they are built for what the owner wants. But there are some combinations that are proven to work well together and others that have been proven not to work very well together (tired engine, hilly area, single speed rear axle, 3:1 gears).

The Northwest Vintage Speedster site at: http://www.nwvs.org/ has a wealth of information on line. See their photo section for ideas on looks, see their technical section at: http://www.nwvs.org/technical-reference/ on engine, chassis, etc. ideas. See also http://www.nwvs.org/Technical/MTFCA/Construction.shtml for stories about how individuals have built their speedsters etc. And their site has links to others.

Paste the following into Google search and you will be reading for a long time: Speedster site:mtfca.com

A couple of classic books that were first published back in 1956 and the second in 1968 but still have some great information on speedsters are: “Model T Ford in Speed and Sport” https://www.modeltford.com/item/P3.aspx and “The Fast Ford Handbook” https://www.modeltford.com/item/P8.aspx . You should be able to purchase a used copy and many Model T Clubs have a library where you can borrow a copy.

The Tulsa site has some excellent information on speedsters as well as making a T a good touring car. See their technical section at: http://mtfctulsa.com/Tech/index.htm They make an excellent case that with a strong engine (flat head not even overhead) you don’t really need a Ruckstell. And they provide the documentation and testing to show the difference.

Note also that many of the 1926-27 dimensions are a little different from the 1909-25 dimensions. When looking at the cars it isn't that noticeable. But if you try to fit a 1926 hood on a 1925 car -- the hood is too long etc.

In general the 1926-27 parts fit together nicely and the 1909-25 parts fit together nicely. Some of those parts mix very easily (such as the rear axle assembly. Some of those parts do not mix easily -- such as the lower steering column bracket, frame in general, etc. Please see the posting at: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/29/24786.html that discusses mixing the different year steering parts etc. See also the posting at: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/506218/540785.html?1431414431 where links to the frame drawings and discussions of mixing 1909-25 with 1926-27 parts are also discussed.

While any parts can be adapted -- in general it is a much easier job to fit the same year range parts together.

Good luck with your project.

Respectfully submitted,

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jan brinkman jr on Monday, August 03, 2015 - 09:34 pm:

That for the links Hap.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker in Sumter SC on Monday, August 03, 2015 - 10:12 pm:

You are welcome and good luck with your speedster project!

Respectfully submitted,

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John M mASLACK on Tuesday, August 04, 2015 - 07:44 pm:

The late Jim Cullinane's and Humble Howard Gengrichs speedster books are pretty much the final say in building a speedster.....I think they are still available....Little HumJim press.


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