1913 Street scene

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ed in California on Saturday, October 10, 2015 - 02:15 pm:

http://www.shorpy.com/node/20205?size=_original#caption


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Thomas Mullin on Saturday, October 10, 2015 - 04:42 pm:

That big building is a bit behind the times. The US flag should have 48 stars in a 6 by 8 block. That looks like the 46 star version from 1907.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Townsend ; ^ ) Gresham, Orygun on Saturday, October 10, 2015 - 05:40 pm:

That a nice shot of the 1911 with top boot and a Prest-O-Lite tank, too.

: ^ )


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John C Codman on Saturday, October 10, 2015 - 06:15 pm:

The sharpness of that century-old photo is amazing!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Wrenn-Monroeville OH on Saturday, October 10, 2015 - 07:19 pm:

Wow that is a fantastic picture. Not only a camera with an outstanding quality lens for the day, but also fast enough film to "stop the action", as I highly doubt the photographer had everybody stand perfectly still so as not to be blurred. Unbelievably perfect. Just perfect.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Dufault on Saturday, October 10, 2015 - 07:29 pm:

There appears to be no straps coming down the seat from the front of the boot. I see a strap on the side - seemingly there would be one on the other side, also. But nothing in the front to hold the boot down - to stop the wind from getting under the boot and billowing it up - and possibly away.

Did the folks "in the day" drive so slowly that wind was not a factor?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Terry Horlick in Penn Valley, CA on Saturday, October 10, 2015 - 08:28 pm:

Ooh, I want an omnibus!



Has anyone ever seen a body like this on a T chassis?

TH


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ed in California on Saturday, October 10, 2015 - 08:46 pm:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ed in California on Saturday, October 10, 2015 - 08:50 pm:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Gumbinger, Kenosha, WI on Saturday, October 10, 2015 - 10:00 pm:

The red Omnibus in the picture just above is owned by Bob Wirth who lives just outside of Milwaukee, WI, and who is a member of our Dairyland Tin Lizzies Chapter of the MTFCA.

Keith


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harold Schwendeman - Sumner,WA on Sunday, October 11, 2015 - 01:27 am:

Ed and/or Keith - Pretty neat body style. Do they have bench type seats crosswise like a depot hack or seating along each side? How many will that body style seat?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith on Sunday, October 11, 2015 - 02:23 am:

I guess the owner was in a hurry, and failed to attach the three straps that day.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker in Sumter SC on Sunday, October 11, 2015 - 07:26 am:

From the posting at: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/80257/92965.html there are a lot of great photos of the Green Ominbus that Ed posted. Included is the view of the seating shown below:





How many people would fit comfortably in the back? My guess – I have NOT been in one -- lots of grandkids or three 1915 style adults on each side for a total of six in the back. The larger adults we often have today – I would guess 2 on each side for 4. Again that is just a guess. Someone who has seen one up close will have to give the more accurate number. And of course if it was used as a taxi/jitney as many folks as would fit.

Respectfully submitted,

Hap l9l5 cut off


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By G.R.Cheshire on Sunday, October 11, 2015 - 08:07 am:

Must have been a large format camera. My guess would be a 6 X 8 or even larger there is some blurring on the gentleman’s leg that is walking across the street and the flag whipping in the wind,excellent photograph :-) thanks for posting!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chad Marchees _____Tax Capital, NY on Sunday, October 11, 2015 - 08:37 am:

Intersection then---1913:




Intersection Today---2015:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Terry Horlick in Penn Valley, CA on Sunday, October 11, 2015 - 02:14 pm:

Hap, Ed, Keith... thanks for the information. I seem to have a sickness\... if I see a body style I like I have to build one. On this one I will only have to show the photos to my wife and I'm on my way!

I love the style of this body. It looks like the red and the green ones are from the same builder. Are they recent creations or period originals?

I love the rear entrance, the removable windows and the removable top. Also the semi-enclosed body.

This one cries out for a Ruckstell to be able to carry a full load!

Here is what happened last time I saw a body style I loved!




Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith on Sunday, October 11, 2015 - 02:35 pm:

One thing to note on that '13, is the quality of the upholstery. None of these kits today even come close. I'm attempting to do a cushion now, and it is about the same depth.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith on Sunday, October 11, 2015 - 02:41 pm:

Another thing I noticed in this photo, is the angle of the bulb on the horn tubing. It appears to me, that those guys at the factory must have just attached them where ever they pleased. I have a lot of old photos of '13s and '14s, and it appears there is no set position for them.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ed in California on Sunday, October 11, 2015 - 03:03 pm:

Its true, it takes some doing to get the seats looking good as original
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/29/19641.jpg


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker in Sumter SC on Sunday, October 11, 2015 - 03:32 pm:

Terry,

Yes, the red and green Omnibus are 1960ish reproduction/recreation bodies. From the posting mentioned above located at: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/80257/92965.html?1245204020 Dave Ferch built one based on some plans he had along with the illustrations from the Dykes Automobile Encyclopedia. Dave Ferch then sold copies of the plans he developed from building his car. At least that is my understanding from what I read in the posting. Then others were built using the plans so they look very similar.

Below is page 1141 from the 13th Edition of Dyke’s Automobile Encyclopedia:









If you are serious about wanting to make one – recommend you contact Mike Walker who according to that same posting may have a copy of the plans.

Note another Green Omnibus was made in Australia and had a kookaburra radiator ornament. It was featured in the Jul – Aug “Model T Times” 1990 article. That article has pictures of his build. And the builder used a photo of what looks like it was probably Dave Ferch’s Omnibus or one built from his plans.

Respectfully submitted,

Hap l9l5 cut off


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John C Codman on Sunday, October 11, 2015 - 05:41 pm:

To Thomas Mullin: You are correct of course, but the US flag code permits the flying of any official flag as long as it is in good condition. The flag that we fly on appropriate holidays is a 48-star flag that belonged to my wife's grandfather.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Terry Horlick in Penn Valley, CA on Monday, October 12, 2015 - 01:37 am:

Hap,
Thanks for the info on the Dykes body and your link. I can't make out the Kookaburra ornament, perhaps you can see the Kiwi on my recreation of a New Zealand fire brigade car.



TH


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Fischer - Arroyo Grande, CA on Monday, October 12, 2015 - 05:17 pm:

Did anyone else notice on the right side of the original photo that there is a woman with a large satchel walking away from the 1911 Touring ? The satchel looks like the sort of bag that a doctor would have carried.

If that woman was a doctor, could it be that the car is an example of the very very rare "1911 Doctor's Touring"? My understanding is that the Doctor's Touring model could only be distinguished from a regular touring by the immediate proximity of a doctor.

Dick
(tongue firmly in cheek)


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