Space under front seat or "toolbox" on Improved cars.

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2015: Space under front seat or "toolbox" on Improved cars.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Will Brown on Thursday, November 19, 2015 - 03:55 pm:

I noticed that Dan Treace posted a picture which I am posting here, that shows the space under the front seat of an Improved open car. Shown on the floor of that space is a recessed pan that drops down below the edge of the body members. Is this the way it was? The floor of that space in my '26 (if I remember correctly) was just a flat piece of sheet steel. Mine was pretty well gone when I got it and I replaced it with one from Howell's which has cross dimples for reinforcement. Dan picture is of a later Improved open car as the doors have the large holes in them.
I also notice that funny little dimple on the front body crossmember just in front of the seat frame. Mine has that too and what was that for?
Dan thank you for that that image I hope it is okay to use it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Will Brown on Thursday, November 19, 2015 - 04:02 pm:

Funny dimple


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Don Booth@ Bay City, Mi on Thursday, November 19, 2015 - 04:15 pm:

The dimple is for the cross member to clear the frame.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Will Brown on Thursday, November 19, 2015 - 04:24 pm:

Really?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Thursday, November 19, 2015 - 04:52 pm:

Mine doesn't have the dimple shown on your second picture, but the body does not touch the frame. It's possible that a later car was set a little lower on the frame? Mine is a 26.
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace, North FL on Thursday, November 19, 2015 - 05:02 pm:

Will

Yes, almost, the dimple is there also to clear the starter switch mounting screw and have room to wrench off that nut if needing to replace the switch.

Original pans for the seat base floor all have reinforcement cross beads in an 'X' pattern.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Dewey, N. California on Thursday, November 19, 2015 - 05:05 pm:

I believe the dimple was added to clear the battery cable--but that's just based on the location, I don't have one to look at & check.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Saturday, November 21, 2015 - 12:10 pm:

I was wrong in my first post. I looked under the car and felt around without removing the floorboard. I checked again and found that there is a dimple right above the frame where the starter switch is bolted to the frame. There is just enough clearance to get a wrench in there to remove the starter switch.
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Carnegie Spokane, WA on Saturday, November 21, 2015 - 01:56 pm:

I believe that the recessed under-seat pans are late and that the flat ones are early.


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