I have a 26 engine and even with removable band ears it is a job installing the bands, I was wondering if anyone had put the bands on the drums and then set the hogshead without the pan, it has the two bolts at the top, dropped nut would fall on the floor, I could put it all together then install the pan without the gaskets being moved by the hogshead, has anyone done this.?
I have heard of it being done once, but I have never seen it done.
I would worry about accidentally breaking the ears off the hogshead.
Looks like to me it wouldn't be any easier than using a band clip or zip ties to hold the bands in place and installing the cover with the pan already installed.
Never thought about doing it that way. But maybe so.
Sounds like a good plan to me. Certainly worth a try.
Put the bands on the drums, tywrap or safety wire the ears together as tight as you can then put the hogs head on. Install the pedals/tensioning bolt with nuts then cut the tywraps or safety wire and remove them. Be sure to pack shop rags around the drums to prevent anything dropped from going to the bottom of the pan. Count the rags and be sure the same number comes out as went in.
I do same as Chester accept I c clamp my band around the drum befor I tie it off usual this gives plenty of room start the nits on the pedal shaftesbury
Had a guy ask has anyone ever used hose to seal the hogshead to block
On mounting the hogs head this way there alot of leverage and could easily brake an ear or two I add a strap from the back u joint hole to a head stud
Well, I installed the bands and wire tied them so the wouldn't fall off, I then installed the felt and sealer, this car has no mag ring so there is plenty of room, I set the hogshead in place, inserted the two bolts to the ears and it is rock steady, I then put the bands in position and slipped the pedals on o the spring and installed the washers and nuts, clipped the ties and all is well, I did drop a nut but it fell on the floor, the ears are very sturdy and probably wouldn't break without some abuse, I did slip the ballcap into place with a bolt to help support it when I turn it over to install the pan. This method made it a lot easier.
I usually install the pedals, nuts and washers before setting the hogshead in place. No chance of dropping anything.
Royce, there was no pan so it was open underneath, it has removable ears on the bands.
rick! i have put the pan on last for years then it is easy to set the pan gasket on the block& hogshead the put the pan on just any other motor.on a pre -26-27 you have to make couple of simple tools or i will lend you mine. charley
Charley, I am done but thanks.
Royce, i mis-understood you, that would be great if I was younger and could hold the hogshead long enough to get everything in place before sitting it down in place, old age and a back that hurts all the time.
Rick ; I do it with my great help !!!
The ty - wrapped bands allow the pedal shafts to slip into place. You don't need to hold anything longer than normal. I am no spring chicken myself!
Royce, what do you do about getting the band springs to behave as you lower the hogshead? Do you have a set of those "fingers of steel"?
anthonie! i will add one of those to my tools if i ever have to work one of those nasty iron hogsheads, i sure hope not, the alum ones are not heavy. charley
I have a tool that holds the pedals in place. It's a copy of a period tool. It keeps the pedals from flopping around as you set the hogshead in place.
It is made from a piece of 5/16" steel, a few old bolts, and a couple hours work with a hacksaw and file. The brass knob was made on the lathe, but you could just use a hex bolt.
Royce, how is this tool used?
yes Royce show us where it gos,thanks. charley
Royce, I like your pedal position holding tool, that will be my next project. Thanks for posting it.
Neat-O even though I just got my engine done I be making up one of these myself
Royce, that is indeed a neat tool! I've never seen one before. I saved this thread for future reference. Dave