Are there pictures of Presidents in a Model T??? AND THIS IS NOT NOT NOT A Political thread - is meant to be a picture thread.
I didn't mean muliple presidents at one time - an individual President, maybe with wife or other dignitary
There is a picture of President Eisenhower with an electric car that had belonged to his wife's (Dowd) family. Vice president Humphrey owned a real and a reproduction Model A Ford. Vice president Rockefeller's family owned both Model T and Model A Fords as well as a Model N Ford. They are on display at the family estate in New York State. The best chance for a picture of a president with a Model T may be President Coolidge. (1923-29)
I was at the Rockefeller estate last weekend. There wasn't a Model N there. There was, however, a Model S (1906?)and a Model T (192?). There was also a 1916 Anderson Electric automobile which was pretty cool. There was also a Model A, but I don't pay attention to those unless they are the 190? Model A's
There is a picture of George Bush Sr. in a Model T taken sometime either before or after he was president. I thought it appeared in one of the club magazines. Does that count?
It is an S - 1908. All the 06s are Ns. Rs were made as 1907s. Ns were probably sold beyond 1906. The chassis are the same, the S has full fenders. I will check my photos. It has been two years since I was there.
Darel,
Here ya go....Model S....
http://info.detnews.com/joyrides/story/index.cfm?id=520
Calvin Coolidge's car, 1924 was a Lincoln.
A few "Facts" I found on the internet:
1. McKinley (1897-1901) was the first president to ride in a car, a steam powered Locomobile in 1899.
2. Taft (1909-13) was the first president to own and drive cars during his presidency.
3. Harding (1921-23) was the first president who knew how to drive an automobile before taking office.
I have no reason to doubt the "facts" above, but have not verified them. Assuming they are accurate, they're interesting.
Item 3 above suggests that President Wilson may have been a little behind the times, automotively speaking. Of course, I guess he had other things to worry about, like WWI.
Woodrow Wilson was the former President of Princeton University and the Gov,. of New Jersey at the time of his election in 1912, defeating Taft and Ted Roosevelt in a three way race. Somewhere I have seen a picture of him and an automobile. As I remember it was a Pearce Arrow.
John - Here's that photo of Geo. Sr. in a '13 Touring taken here in Oregon in 1987. Photo courtesy of Bill White, the car's former owner and the driver in the picture. (Gee, I wonder what the guy in the back seat does for a living?)
Here is a photo of the Rockefeller Model S I took in the fall of 2005 at the New York Estate.
Dont them "secret service" people know any kind of cloths out side of them dang Suits?:>)He was the fancyest dressed 1 in the T,
Here's Lyndon B. Johnson's Model T:
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Let's try that again:
http://www.lbjlib.utexas.edu/Johnson/museum.hom/museum_exhibit_images/modelT/D11 716-28a_72.jpg
again, if the link doesn't work:
A nice looking T. Is it a 1910 (rather than a nine? What is the history of it? Is the serial number listed? 1910s seem to keep turning up. One wonders how many are left than are all or mostly complete.
Darel,
You are correct about the Model S Ford Roadster which is the version with the mother-in-law seat being produced and sold in 1908. The Model N was in continuous production summer 1906 to Dec 1908. See http://mtfca.com/encyclo/earlyfds.htm And of course the Model S Runabout is often forgotten – but it had its own serial number range starting with #1 and was produced in 1907 and 1908. As you stated, the Model R was produced and sold 1907 into 1908 but is usually associated with 1907 since that was when it was introduced.
If you have some tips on what to look for to tell the difference in a photo between a regular production (after 2500) 1909 compared to a 1910 Ford, please let me know. In the case of the car that is shown in the posting above – if the radiator was original to the car it appears to have the higher filler neck that was introduced in Summer 1910 (ref: http://mtfca.com/encyclo/P-R.htm#rad ) which would mean it would be a late 1910 model. I would guess that it also has the reinforcement bar across the lower part of the radiator. But we don’t know if that is the radiator that came on the car or the style of the one that came on the car or not. For period photos, if the car doesn’t have the “bills” on the front fender it is usually one of the earlier 1909 cars. That would also be true if it has the rear fender braces that come up under the rear fender skirts rather than through the sides. But I have reviewed several 1909-1910 style cars in early photographs and I haven’t found a good way to tell unless they are the “no bill” or the visible “two lever” or the rear fender brackets are visible very early 1909 or late 1910. In between – the photos seldom show any of the transmission or rear axle changes in enough detail to date the photo.
Of course going to the site that has the photo posted might have saved some time. At: http://www.lbjlib.utexas.edu/johnson/museum.hom/modelt.shtm the caption on the photo reads: “This mint condition 1910 Model T Ford was given to President Johnson by Henry Ford II. It is similar to the Model T that served as the family car for the Johnsons during his youth.”
Respectfully submitted,
Hap Tucker 1915 Model T Ford touring cut off and made into a pickup truck and 1907 Model S Runabout. Sumter SC.
Woodrow Wilson's White House Pierce Arrow limousine is restored and on display at the Presidential Library in Staunton, Virginia. It's my understanding that the car is driven to shows sometimes. I've seen it cruise by my shop windows more than once.
The LBJ museum says it was given to him by Henry Ford II as a 1910. I think LBJ's family owned one of that vintage when he was a kid.
I remember seeing a photograph of LBJ as a barefoot child standing next to the family Ford, typical for the day, car loaded with the family, the kid on the ground next to the running board. This would have been in "Life" shortly after he became Presdident.
http://www.woodrowwilson.org/visit_sub/visit_sub_show.htm?doc_id=321148