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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Neil Kaminar on Friday, January 16, 2009 - 03:20 pm:

Web Monitor:

Is there any way to delete spam that sneaks in on some treads? The treads are valuable and it is a shame to loose them instead of just the offending posts.

Neil


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker on Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 12:16 am:

Neil,

I'm 60% sure that one of the posting in the past pointed out that once the "spamer's" computer picks a thread, it continues to post to that thread.

If I remembered that correctly then reposting the thread with a different address might work? As an individual solution, I've been saving the threads that are really important to me on my hard drive along with the address for them. That way it is easy for me to find them again if they are still there. Bruce has also said we may repost the information from a deleted thread -- so if there is one that I wanted to add to, but it had been deleted due to SPAM etc. then I would just start a new thread and post it there. If there is a thread you liked and it has disappeared -- let us know. One of the other folks may have saved a copy.

And sometimes I have trouble keeping track of who has and who has not found any body numbers or letters on their cars. I noticed you have a 1915 listed in your profile. If you have the car in a heated garage -- please take a look and let us know if you have a letter on the front heel panel:



or if you have a body manufacture number on the wooden seat frame -- (lift the cushion and look on the wood in front of the gas tank) -- it might be a tag like below:



Or stamped into the wood like below:



or if it has a metal seat frame -- does it have the number stamped into a tag or into the wood on the right front floorboard riser like below:



If you don't have a heated garage -- recommend you wait until things warm up some before you go out to look.

Respectfully submitted,

Hap Tucker 1915 Model T Ford touring cut off and made into a pickup truck and 1907 Model S Runabout. Sumter SC.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Neil Kaminar on Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 09:19 am:

Hap,

Thanks for the response.

I am a few thousand miles south of my T for the winter. I will be back in June and will look then. My car has been gone through several times and may not have any body numbers or letters. I haven't seen any, but haven't looked.

Neil


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Daniel Benjey on Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 10:08 am:

Hap,
I have a '15 Touring with a B in the riser as in photo 1 and a serial tag as in photo 2. It has no rivet head on the side body aft of the front seat.
Thanks,
Dan


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce Peterson on Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 11:34 am:

Daniel,

The riser panel with the "B" shown in Hap's post above is a picture of my 1915 Touring, serial #733122. I've examined several Beaudette bodies from 1914 - 17 and all are built similarly, with wood structure having the steel panels nailed and screwwed into place, and wood access doors for the fuel tank and under the rear seat.

The rivets were used on other brands of bodies in 1915. In those cars the structure beneath the seats is made of steel formed pieces.


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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker on Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 08:52 pm:

Neil,

I apologize – it looks like my request to you to please take a look for the body number and any letter that might be associated with it has Hi-Jacked your SPAM thread. My bad. But I am working to save threads that have been hit by the Porn/SPAM so if someone wants it reposted we can do that. And yes – there is no rush – but if you think of it when you see the car next time, please take some photos of the front seat area, front seat heel panel, rear seat heel panel, cowl section above the coil box, and the right front floorboard riser.

Dan,

From your profile it appears you have also only posted a few times – so welcome aboard! When you have a chance please send and/or post the month and year of your engine serial number and also the casting date. Please let us know what the numbers are on your tag and if there are any “dots” or spaces between any of the numbers.

If you look again at Royce’s body tag above it has 3 15 xxxxx That 3 15 we believe is for Mar 1915. That fits well with his 733122 engine number which was probably produced Mar 27, 1915. [Royce – did you notice your engine number was the 21st stamped / recorded on the Mar 27 engine log (9ref page 510 of Bruce McCalley’s book “Model T Ford”)? Note, there is also a chance that the engine number 733122 was sent along with other engine numbers for use at one of the branch assembly plants. If that was the case it probably was stamped a few days or weeks later depending on the plants use of the numbers onto one of the engine and transmission assemblies there.]

Again thank to everyone for helping us track down information and find help for folks.

Respectfully submitted,

Hap Tucker 1915 Model T Ford touring cut off and made into a pickup truck and 1907 Model S Runabout. Sumter SC.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Daniel Benjey on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 10:39 pm:

Hap & Royce,
I'm attempting to attach photos of the areas in question. The body serial number stamped on the plate under the seat is: 8.15.279012, The engine serial (stamped) is: 891663 and the casting numbers on either side of the water inlet are: N21 32715.
Thanks,
Dan


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 11:42 pm:

Dan,

Thanks for taking a look. Feel free to e-mail me the photos (just click on my name on any posting I’ve made and the 3rd line down is my actual e-mail address – you can send attachments that way). Or for information on how to post a photo (most of us had to ask for help on how to post a photo) see: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/50893/74713.html

Just a quick summary to make sure I have it correctly:
1. You have a “B” stamped on the front seat panel that indicates your body was produced by Beaudett (also spelled Beaudette, also refered to as Pontiac on many of the Ford documents).
2. It has the metal tag attached to the wooden front seat frame.
3. It has a wooden gas tank cover (I don’t think you commented on that – but please confirm that is the case.
4. The body does not have the rivet head on the outside just in front of the rear doors.
5. The engine number 891xxx corresponds to Sep 10, 1915 engine assembly date if it was assembled at the Highland Park Plant (it would be a later date if the number was sent to a branch plant and stamped onto an engine assembly they built at the branch plant).
6. The body tag 8.15.279012 would represent Aug 1915 which fits great with a Sep engine date.
7. The casting date appears to be 32715 which would be Mar 27, 1915. I would suggest taking another look at that. Perhaps it might have been a poorly cleaned engine block mold and the leading 3 may have been an 8? Or perhaps the engine block was shipped to a branch assembly plant and it sat around for six months before it was assembled and the serial number was stamped. Note I think (but don't know for sure) that the N21 is probably the number for the mold. If they had problems with the casting they could remove or repair a mold if it was causing problems.
8. Thanks for posting the information. I’m trying to figure out when Beaudett stopped making the wooden seat riser type bodies and switched to the metal seat framed bodies.
9. If you have not already read Bruce McCalley’s posting about a very original Sept 23, 1915 touring you will enjoy reading about that one at: http://mtfca.com/encyclo/1915_ford.htm

Respectfully submitted,

Hap Tucker 1915 Model T Ford touring cut off and made into a pickup truck and 1907 Model S Runabout. Sumter SC.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mack Jeffrey Cole on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 11:54 pm:

Oh the days when Spam refered to meat in a can.If we could only get the "spammers" in a can we would be doing well for the world.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker on Monday, January 19, 2009 - 11:12 am:

Ok, my bad for high jacking the thread in the first place. And now that it is really getting interesting, I would like to change the title – but it isn’t my thread and I don’t think users are allowed to do that. So I have started another posting with a summary of body information from this one. If you want to comment on the original SPAM posting – please put it on this current forum thread. If you want to comment on the Body numbers, casting numbers, 1915 stuff – please post it at: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/50893/79373.html?1232377766 under the new title: “Relocated-New Title: 1915 – 1917 Beaudett body tag information – is the answer in the numbers? “

That should make it easier for other folks to find the information now and in the future.

Neil, note that is also one way to save a thread that has been SPAMMED with Porn etc. Copy the information and repost without the SPAM.

Respectfully relocated,

Hap Tucker 1915 Model T Ford touring cut off and made into a pickup truck and 1907 Model S Runabout. Sumter SC.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Neil Kaminar on Monday, January 19, 2009 - 01:07 pm:

Hap,

No offense taken by the hijack. Any discussion is a good discussion.

The copy and repost works, of course, but seems like the heavy hammer approach. On other forums, the monitor has a way to prevent spam in the first place. This seems like a more elegant solution. I am no IP expert, and don't want to be, so I don't have a good answer.

Neil


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Daniel Benjey on Monday, January 19, 2009 - 02:31 pm:

Neil,
I also apologize.
Dan


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