1921 Canadian Touring T Ford Top

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2016: 1921 Canadian Touring T Ford Top
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Niels Andersen on Tuesday, January 12, 2016 - 09:34 am:

5 years ago a friend of mine acquired this 1921 Canadian touring, which a Danish dealer had brought to Denmark from US.



Now he wants to give it a new top.
The US produced tops do not fit a Canadian I understand, so he has to find a local craftsman to do it.
He wants to get the fabric as close to the original material as possible.
Can anybody tell the name of a fabric that lives up to this standard?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace, North FL on Tuesday, January 12, 2016 - 07:58 pm:

Don't know about Canadian original material, but Ford USA made its own leathercloth material. In recent years original top material for USA Fords have been duplicated. Its known now as Ford colonial grain.

Lang's sells it by the foot, in wide width.

https://www.modeltford.com/item/TOP-M-F.aspx


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Niels Andersen on Wednesday, January 13, 2016 - 04:50 am:

Thanks Dan - most helpful! - Niels


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By James A. Golden on Wednesday, January 13, 2016 - 10:04 am:

Isn't that the 1923 USA One Man Top?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Wednesday, January 13, 2016 - 10:31 am:

Canadian production got a leaning windshield and a one man top a couple of years earlier than USA. The Canadian style leaning windshield has both upper and lower panes opening

Has anyone tried the fit of a 1923-25 US top kit on an earlier one man Canadian top? Maybe they can be adjusted to fit?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Wolf on Wednesday, January 13, 2016 - 10:46 am:

I had a fellow here in Florida install a top on my '14 Touring. He built it from scratch. He said that the kits were too short. He installed new steam bent bows and the top for $1,000.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By James A. Golden on Wednesday, January 13, 2016 - 11:32 am:

Has anyone retrofitted a USA 1922 Touring with the 1923 slant windshield and one man top to make it look newer or for ease of operation?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Wednesday, January 13, 2016 - 11:41 am:

Jim, as I wrote above, it's an all original 1921 Canadian built Model T Touring. They were not all the same over the globe - not even at the same time.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Wells, Hamilton Ontario on Wednesday, January 13, 2016 - 12:18 pm:

That is indeed a very correct '21 Canadian Touring.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By James A. Golden on Wednesday, January 13, 2016 - 05:12 pm:

I have a friend selling a 1922 Touring that has the 1 man top and slanted windshield. The engine was made about June 20, 1922 and paperwork suggests the car is all original.

I was actually interested in finding an explanation of this apparent discrepancy.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace, North FL on Wednesday, January 13, 2016 - 05:56 pm:

the slant windshield open cars appeared in Sept 1922 as the '1923' new body and one man top.
Perhaps the motor was changed?
seems odd for a June '22 built T to have slant windshield and one man top unless someone added those later. It can be done easy


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Wednesday, January 13, 2016 - 06:01 pm:

Sorry for misunderstanding your post, Jim.
Bruce says this in the online encyclopedia:
"The 1923 model year began in the late summer of 1922 with the introduction of the one-man top and the sloping windshield on the touring cars."
"The 1923 touring car style was introduced in September 1922, with a one-man top and sloping windshield"
so a June 20 engine sounds a bit early, but then we have this letter from the Chicago branch in March 1924 that said:
"We hear stories that some salesmen are telling their customers to be sure and look at the motor number of any car when they buy in order to be sure they get a late motor number. These particular salesmen are just making a lot of trouble for themselves because at the new plant we have hundreds of motors that have been standing there for thirty days or more and will be going into the cars in the course of production. This means that all dealers will receive motor numbers from the Burnham plant that will be considerably lower in number than those motors received from the Chicago plant so just stop your salesmen making any remarks at all about motor numbers because in so doing they are going to make a lot of trouble for you when we start shipping from the new plant."
A.W.L. Gilpin
Branch Manager
P.S. In correspondence the old Ford plant in Chicago is referred to as the Chicago plant and the new plant is referred to as the Burnham plant because it is near the Burnham railroad yards"

So who knows now, more than 90 years afterwards with incomplete documentation?


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