Does anyone know the correct shade of grey for a 1909 Model T Runabout? How can I find out?
I would like to get as correct as possible.
From the Encyclopedia May not be exact, but about as close as is known.
This may not help but, I recently saw such a car at the OCF. I ask the owner if his totally correct looking car was the correct shade of grey and he said yes. I don't know if you can find him or not but, a good example of your car is out there.
I tried to scan the DuPont 72092 color chip but the colors are a little off to the blue side. (On my computer.) I know this by comparing the gray on the chip under the 72092 with the booklet. This is close and the fact that it is a "standard" DuPont color should make it easy for a paint shop to mix.
The A after the number in the encyclopedia signifies Acrylic (single stage). If you want the color in two-stage (BC/CC), the suffix would be K.
Before you spend megabucks for paint, get a pint or whatever the minimum quantity they'll mix, mixed and spray it on something. that way you can see it in various lights and see what it looks like.
Don't know the proper code or mix. But asked an owner of a nice 1909 mother-in-law runabout at the Amelia Island Concourse back a few years ago, as his 1909 in Grey looked great.
He said he used 1980 Ford Thunderbird Dove Grey.
I was building this 1909 'clone', using later T parts, but with the look of a true 1909 as far as little $ possible So that is what I had mixed in DuPont Centari acrylic enamel. Frame and body painted with it.
DuPont code C8065 or Ditzer PPG code 3295
Think that shade is real nice, and best of all....its a Ford approved color
Your car almost looks white in the pictures.
Is it a really light gray?
I ordered a spray bomb can of Dove Gray paint using the paint code you provided. I really like the shade. It surprised me because I really don't like gray. I feel a lot better about going correct with the color now.
Great! The Dove grey is a nice shade. Looks good in the sun or in low light, kinda changes with the lighting. And gloss black trim stands out on it the best IMO.
That brass looks good against the Gray color!!
If you have not already done so, I would recommend ordering a copy of the original shipping document (also referred to as “production record”) from the Benson Ford Archives for you car (use the engine number). The cost is $20 and it helps support the museum & archives. See: http://www.thehenryford.org/research/productionRecords.aspx and you can order any shipping document between engine serial number 1,119 to 70,920. Information below is from that page:
How can I order production card information?
• There is a $20.00 per serial number charge.
• Provide your serial number, make, model and body type (for Lincolns), and contact information.
• Payment may be made either by check payable to “The Henry Ford” or by credit card.
Benson Ford Research Center
P.O. Box 1970
Dearborn, MI 481821-1970
Fax: (313) 982-6244
You have already shared that the body was replaced but the shipping document will often contain additional details. For example at: http://mtfca.com/encyclo/doc11.htm
Note there was at least 1 red Roadster (or marked red on the document) serial number 2,585 was manufactured Apr 27, 1909.
And on May 28, 1909 engine number 3,916 was the first green painted roadster that I saw in Bruce McCalley's abbreviated listing (he was listing about every 100th car by that time). And there were lots of other gray roadster listed following that with another one listed on the shipping document as green manufactured on Jun 19, 1909 #5,208. But there is a note in Bruce's book that the owner of the car stated it had been gray in color and not green. The last gray roadster I saw listed was Jun 23, 1909 #5,450.
The shipping document could give you some other good information (type carb, coil box, type of gas lamps).
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Maybe I'm partial to gray.....Dixie, the '27 touring is a real rebel in gray with red wheels
This gray is WWI Battleship gray!
I did order the shipping document from Benson Ford a few years ago. It is good that those documents are still available.
It was very informative and worth the small fee charged.
It was Gray originally. I just thought it would look like primer gray but it actually is very nice.
Thanks for the update. Most of the shipping documents listed dealers but a few of the early ones list an individual and a city. If your document has an individual and city listed, there is a slim chance you could contact the local historical society and find out some additional information about the original owner. Slim chance -- but might be worth a look. In 1909 especially in smaller towns out west -- that may have been the first car in town.
Good luck with your roadster.
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