Old Photo - Ready For A Joy Ride

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2016: Old Photo - Ready For A Joy Ride
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jay - In Northern California on Thursday, January 28, 2016 - 10:27 am:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Seth - Ohio on Thursday, January 28, 2016 - 10:53 am:

How do you know her name is Joy?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Doolittle on Thursday, January 28, 2016 - 10:56 am:

He's hoping for a bumpy ride.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jay - In Northern California on Thursday, January 28, 2016 - 11:07 am:

Brings this song to mind

HARRY NILSSON LYRICS
"Joy"

The other day I met a girl named Joy
She said come here,
I'm gonna make you my joy boy
Well, things went good and things went bad
Now everytime I think of Joy
It makes me sad
It makes me... sad
The other day I met a girl named Joy
She said Roy!
I'm gonna make you my joy boy
Well, she took me for a ride
Sort of a joy ride
Now everytime I think of Joy
I get all weird inside
Oh, Joy to the world
Was a beautiful girl
But to me Joy meant only sorrow
Now--if you haven't got an answer
Then you haven't got a question
And if you never had a question
Then you'd never have a problem
But if you never had a problem
Well, everyone would be happy
But if everyone was happy
There'd never be a love song
Joy was a beautiful girl
But to me Joy meant only sorrow
The other day I met a girl named Joy
She said, Come here,
I wanna make you feel all clammy inside
Things went good good and things went bad
Things went good... things went bad
Good, bad, good, bad, good, bad
Joy to the world
Was a beautiful girl
But to me Joy meant only sorrow
Oh, Joy to the world
Was a beautiful girl
But to me Joy meant only sorrow
Joy, I know you're out there
I want you to turn on your radio and listen to my song


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Burger in Spokane on Thursday, January 28, 2016 - 11:15 am:

What kind of dog is that in front of the car ???


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Johnson on Thursday, January 28, 2016 - 11:43 am:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlySU6y0LE4

1

Take Me Out For a Joy Ride
Words by Ren Shields
Music by Kerry Mills
Published 1909

[verse 1]
Sweet little, neat little Gwendolin Fields,
She was just daffy 'bout automobiles,
And ev'ry day she worked some kind of scheme,
To get a ride in a benzine machine;
She always was there with the big "goo-goo eye"
At every Chauffeur who went passing by.
Her style was so charming, her smile was so gay,
When they'd run their autos close to her she'd say:

[chorus]
"Take me out for a joy ride, a girl ride, a boy ride,
I'm as reckless as I can be,
I don't care what becomes of me;
Let's go in the parkway, the dark way, the lark way,
All afternoon we will spin and spoon* on an old joy ride.

[verse 2]
Fly little, sly little Rudolph O'Neil,
Took her out once in his automobile,
Ten miles from town motor broke down, of course,
Farmers all gathered and yelled, "Get a horse."
Nothing to carry her home could be found,
A Marathon she had to do back to town,
And now she's laid up with both feet in a sling,
So never again will sweet Gwendolin sing:

[repeat chorus]

*to kiss and cuddle


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Semprez-Templeton, CA on Thursday, January 28, 2016 - 11:47 am:

Looks like young Oliver Hardy in front. This ride may not end too well!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Wrenn-Monroeville OH on Thursday, January 28, 2016 - 01:51 pm:

Looks kinda like a '12 but those black sidelamps are throwing me....any thoughts?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerry VanOoteghem - SE Michigan on Thursday, January 28, 2016 - 02:03 pm:

The headlamps look like they've been electrified. Notice the reflectors.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Thomas Mullin on Thursday, January 28, 2016 - 03:59 pm:

Brass looks shiny.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Eagle Idaho Falls on Friday, January 29, 2016 - 12:40 pm:

Thank you Jay and Erik. My wife, Joy, thoroughly enjoyed this. Riding in the old cars is one of her favorite things. You made our day.

Rich


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Parker on Friday, January 29, 2016 - 01:47 pm:

Transition to Black & Brass began during the middle of the 1912 model year according to Bruce's Book. Similar to the 1913 all metal coil box; you don't see many examples today.

Ken in Texas


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stephen D Heatherly on Friday, January 29, 2016 - 08:01 pm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocmkW0uDdAQ

Stephen


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Johnson on Friday, January 29, 2016 - 08:27 pm:

Same recording as I posted earlier, except issued on a different label: United Record/United Talking Machine vs. Aretino Record.

Both companies were based out of Chicago. Also, neither company produced recordings - they leased masters from other companies.

Paul Southe originally recorded "Take Me Out for a Joy Ride" for Columbia Record/Columbia Phonograph Company. Columbia leased the master to United and Aretino.

The same recording issued on multiple labels was a common practice.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Dallas TX on Friday, January 29, 2016 - 08:51 pm:

Erik who was it registered to? Looks like 1914 Minnesota plates.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Lloid on Saturday, January 30, 2016 - 07:23 am:

I love all these old pics they are the best. People were happy and proud to ride in those new cars back then. Tim


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Eagle Idaho Falls on Saturday, January 30, 2016 - 10:24 am:

I noticed the reversed front frame horns. The cars appears to be an Artists stylized American Underslung.
That is certainly a wonderful piece of Art.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Johnson on Saturday, January 30, 2016 - 11:30 am:

It is a Minnesota 1912-13-14 plate. #18784 was registered to George J. Fichtinger of New Munich according to the public directory. If I went to the Minnesota Historical Society, I could pull the ledger and provide the motor serial number. That, with all the photographs, would be invaluable information for the purists in dating certain details in the evolution of the 1912 Model T touring.

That photo came from a collection of original photos that included many of the same car that were recently listed on eBay. Most were probably from the photographer "L. J. Fichtinger" which is embossed on some of the photographers from the large collection of various subject matter that he has been selling. The above information regarding the 1912 Ford jibes with what the seller listed because he also referenced New Munich in some of the photos he listed.

Some of the photos were previously posted in this forum thread:

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/599638/601051.html?1451930653

Here are all the photos. If I had time, I would download them all and post them directly to the forum:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1910S-LARGE-STEAM-TRACTOR-EQUIPMENT-AUTO-SCENE-P HOTO-RPPC-POSTCARD-/301858908833?hash=item4648316aa1:g:7RYAAOSwJb9WqSSs

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1913-NEW-MUNICH-MINNESOTA-STORE-AND-CAR-STREET-S CENE-RPPC-PHOTO-POSTCARD-/291651036347?hash=item43e7c1a4bb%3Ag%3AH-QAAOSwZG9Whsz U&nma=true&si=SUBjQS2u7zNPBjfcZibjOs5O5VE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p204 7675.l2557

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1910S-MODEL-T-WITH-MECHANIC-AT-ENGINE-AUTOMOBILE -PHOTO-RPPC-POSTCARD-/301838103682?hash=item4646f3f482%3Ag%3Asi0AAOSwK7FWhry5&nm a=true&si=SUBjQS2u7zNPBjfcZibjOs5O5VE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675 .l2557

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1910S-MODEL-T-FORD-WITH-PEOPLE-AND-NUN-AUTOMOBIL E-PHOTO-RPPC-POSTCARD-/301838100217?hash=item4646f3e6f9%3Ag%3APO0AAOSwGotWhrrZ&n ma=true&si=SUBjQS2u7zNPBjfcZibjOs5O5VE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p204767 5.l2557

Note that the photo below is embossed in the lower right hand corner "L. J. Fichtinger photographer." No doubt a relative of George Fichtinger and a reason why there are so many photos of the car.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1910S-MODEL-T-FORD-TOURING-CAR-AUTOMOBILE-PHOTO- RPPC-POSTCARD-/291650978885?hash=item43e7c0c445%3Ag%3Ak3sAAOSwZG9Whrm1&nma=true& si=SUBjQS2u7zNPBjfcZibjOs5O5VE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1910S-MODEL-T-FORD-REAR-END-AUTOMOBILE-PHOTO-RPP C-POSTCARD-/301838097645?hash=item4646f3dced%3Ag%3Ac4gAAOSwK7FWhrlZ&nma=true&si= SUBjQS2u7zNPBjfcZibjOs5O5VE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557


Notice the "New Munich" pennant on the car in this photo:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1910S-MODEL-T-FORD-BRASS-RADIATOR-AUTOMOBILE-PHO TO-RPPC-POSTCARD-/291650977864?hash=item43e7c0c048%3Ag%3AMa4AAOSw5dNWhrka&nma=tr ue&si=SUBjQS2u7zNPBjfcZibjOs5O5VE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l25 57

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1910S-MODEL-T-FORD-SAUK-CENTER-MN-BANNER-AUTOMOB ILE-PHOTO-RPPC-POSTCARD-/291650967260?hash=item43e7c096dc%3Ag%3AmxEAAOSwYIhWhrc6 &nma=true&si=SUBjQS2u7zNPBjfcZibjOs5O5VE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047 675.l2557

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1910S-MODEL-T-FORD-WITH-FAMILY-AUTOMOBILE-PHOTO- RPPC-POSTCARD-/301838092886?hash=item4646f3ca56%3Ag%3A-qkAAOSwX%7EdWhraV&nma=tru e&si=SUBjQS2u7zNPBjfcZibjOs5O5VE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l255 7

The car in the foreground is a 1913 Ford. The car behind it is the 1912 Ford:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-PAIR-1910S-MODEL-T-FORDS-WITH-PEOPLE-AUTOMOBILE- PHOTO-RPPC-POSTCARD-/301838092296?hash=item4646f3c808%3Ag%3A-DwAAOSw5dNWhrZE&nma =true&si=SUBjQS2u7zNPBjfcZibjOs5O5VE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675. l2557

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1910S-MODEL-T-FORD-CAR-WITH-BAND-MEMBERS-AUTOMOB ILE-PHOTO-RPPC-POSTCARD-/291650964141?hash=item43e7c08aad%3Ag%3A4%7E4AAOSwGotWhr Xl&nma=true&si=SUBjQS2u7zNPBjfcZibjOs5O5VE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p20 47675.l2557

Once again, notice the "New Munich" pennant:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1910S-BRASS-RADIATOR-MODEL-T-FORD-CAR-AUTOMOBILE -PHOTO-RPPC-POSTCARD-/291650961141?hash=item43e7c07ef5%3Ag%3ATQgAAOSwHaBWhrRi&nm a=true&si=SUBjQS2u7zNPBjfcZibjOs5O5VE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675 .l2557

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1910S-BRASS-RADIATOR-MODEL-T-FORD-CAR-AUTOMOBILE -PHOTO-RPPC-POSTCARD-/291650958923?hash=item43e7c0764b%3Ag%3ANQwAAOSwHaBWhrMe&nm a=true&si=SUBjQS2u7zNPBjfcZibjOs5O5VE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675 .l2557

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1910S-BRASS-RADIATOR-MODEL-T-FORD-CAR-AUTOMOBILE -PHOTO-RPPC-POSTCARD-/291650958431?hash=item43e7c0745f%3Ag%3AWYQAAOSwKtlWhrLe&nm a=true&si=SUBjQS2u7zNPBjfcZibjOs5O5VE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675 .l2557

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1910S-EARLY-TOURING-CAR-WITH-GREAT-LAMPS-AUTOMOB ILE-PHOTO-RPPC-POSTCARD-/291650953294?hash=item43e7c0604e%3Ag%3AgCgAAOSwX%7EdWhr B0&nma=true&si=SUBjQS2u7zNPBjfcZibjOs5O5VE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p20 47675.l2557

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1914-LARGE-STEAM-TRACTOR-FARM-W-CAR-THRESHER-SCE NE-RPPC-PHOTO-POSTCARD-/301836925874?hash=item4646e1fbb2%3Ag%3AGFgAAOSw3KFWhC8C& nma=true&si=SUBjQS2u7zNPBjfcZibjOs5O5VE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p20476 75.l2557

Same car; however, now has a 1915-16-17 Minnesota plate #48708 (I cannot look up this plate at home because it is not included in my public directory).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1910S-TOURING-CAR-WITH-FAMILY-AUTOMOBILE-PHOTO-R PPC-POSTCARD-/291650991139?hash=item43e7c0f423%3Ag%3AtrcAAOSwL7VWhrwY&nma=true&s i=SUBjQS2u7zNPBjfcZibjOs5O5VE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Same car with 1915-16-17 plate but negative was reversed when photo was printed! Note right hand steering! Looks like the gentleman is installing or removing the foredoor.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1910S-MODEL-T-FORD-CAR-FARM-SCENE-AUTOMOBILE-PHO TO-RPPC-POSTCARD-/291650989996?hash=item43e7c0efac%3Ag%3ArQcAAOSwLN5Whrtz&nma=tr ue&si=SUBjQS2u7zNPBjfcZibjOs5O5VE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l25 57


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Johnson on Saturday, January 30, 2016 - 07:39 pm:

After looking at the photos again, I need to make the following corrections for the last two photos in my post above.

This may or may not be the same car. It has a different set of headlights. The license plate is most likely 1912-13-14. Note that it is mounted to the radiator neck. #48708 was registered to Frank H. Welle of Freeport, MN for a Ford.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1910S-TOURING-CAR-WITH-FAMILY-AUTOMOBILE-PHOTO-R PPC-POSTCARD-/291650991139hash=item43e7c0f423%3Ag%3AtrcAAOSwL7VWhrwY&nma=true&si =SUBjQS2u7zNPBjfcZibjOs5O5VE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

The last photo is not the 1912 in the other photos. It is a different car. Note the spacer board under the windshield. Negative reversed. Plate not legible enough to read although it looks like it begins with "80."

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1910S-MODEL-T-FORD-CAR-FARM-SCENE-AUTOMOBILE-PHO TO-RPPC-POSTCARD-/291650989996?hash=item43e7c0efac%3Ag%3ArQcAAOSwLN5Whrtz&nma=tr ue&si=SUBjQS2u7zNPBjfcZibjOs5O5VE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l25 57


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Duey_C on Saturday, January 30, 2016 - 10:23 pm:

Very interesting! L J did a lot of traveling for photo ops.
Nice return flue Huber engine in that first ebay link!
Thanks for digging Erik!
Lovin' those old pics Jay!
Du


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