I just received my rebuilt Stromberg OF from Stan today. Since it is on a "driver car" I did not opt for "show shine" but it still looks great. Its almost a shame to put it on my car. Had this one rebuilt to run on our 27 Sport Touring. It is our tour car, so I hope this puts a little bit of "Pep" "in her step". Even came with a real nice how to tune and install, instruction manual. Thanks Stan, you are an asset to the hobby....
There are just some people in the hobby that if you need an item reworked, they are the only one to consider. Stan is definitely "the carb guy" when it comes to the non standard stuff.
Yes Sir it's a jewel! Stan sure does top of the line work. Happy Zoom Zoom Donnie!
Very nice Donnie. I was thinking it was going to end up on the speedster. Any updates on it?
I have a question regarding this comment:
" .... Since it is on a "driver car" I did not opt for "show shine" but it still looks
great. Its almost a shame to put it on my car. ... "
Exactly how much "shine" did these things have originally ? I am guessing all
about none, other than being made from fresh parts/metal, that had whatever
patina occurred between the time the carb was made and the time the car was
shipped to a final destination and finally sold.
Is "show shine" a typical term used by those that seriously enter their cars in
shows for judging ? .... and as such, isn't an overly polished, shiny engine part
not OEM, and thusly not presented as originally built/sold ?
As a guy who prefers patina, I am as far from knowledgeable on this as a person
could get. Just curious what is considered the "norm" at the other end of the
It's gorgeous. Too pretty to hide under a hood. Stan should probably sell speedster half hoods with every T carb he sells.
Got mine wednesday. Hope they run as good as they look... Too purdy to run.
There's nothing like a mirror finish shiny Brass Carb. You open the hood to adjust the carb on a bright sunlit summer day,the sun bounces off of it right in your eyes, you take a step back to avoid be blinded, and get mowed down by oncoming traffic. All you shiny Carb guys keep this in mind the next time you see a roadside cross with flowers placed on and around it.
Burger - Your post above comes very close to something that I've often wondered about:
Never knew my paternal grandfather, but from what my Dad used to tell me about his Dad, and growing up on a farm in Minnesota, I've come to this conclusion:
I'm pretty sure that if my Dad or either of his brothers had been caught by their Dad, polishing brass on the family Model "T", they'd have got their butt kicked by "the ol' man" for wasting time on such a stupid thing as polishing brass, on a farm where there was so much more important work to do on the farm!
Burger, Just my opinion, but I believe the carbs just came "as cast" They may have did a little buffing and grinding on the raw castings, to make them "presentable" but that probably was about it. I think the steel parts were painted, but most smaller things I see with original paint appears to have been painted and thrown into a box with all the other fresh painted parts. Nothing special. As to "show shine" that is just the term I use for the "over shined" "made perfect look" a lot of cars are restored to. I also feel like a lot of the paint jobs on our Ts are "show shine" and not like original. I once judged a car show that had 2 very nice, fresh restoration, Model Ts in it. Both were very nice and it was hard to choose the best. But one car in my opinion was "over restored" The paint was so slick that you could not even see the casting marks or grinding marks anywhere. All of the casting flash and grinding marks were even gone on the front axle. I pointed this out to the other judges and we chose the correct restored car with the grind marks still showing instead of the over restored car. Talk about one P%$$#@ off loser. He was spouting off about how much he had paid to have his paint job finished to the high quality it was, and other choice words were coming from him. I tried to explain why he lost to the other car, but he was not concerned with any of that. To this day I have never seen him or his car anywhere. I felt bad for him, but I still feel like we chose the right car to win... Chad, no up dates on the speedster yet. I have a U&J for the speedster. But we may be having a small change of direction on the engine goodies but that is "to be continued" nothing firm as of yet ... This carb was always meant for the 27 Sport Touring tour car, with the possibility of using it instead of the U&J carb later on the speedster project. I'm just like some fickle old lady and can not make up my mind. Have fun and be safe Donnie Brown ....
Thanks for the compliments.
New, they were fairly shiny but the bronze parts -- the body -- was not polished at all. They were cast in very fine sand so the finish was very good but as far as I can tell they were not polished. They had, of course, all new steel parts which were finished in various ways over the years but most appear to have had a flash coating to keep them from rusting. Most that I have seen had a copper colored finish on the steel. Some had more of a yellowish, probably Zinc flash, coating. Here is a true new old stock one.
However, they varied a lot. Some of the other models seem to have been brightened more than the OF's were.
This is one of several NOS MB-1's I bought several years ago. They were all about the same so I'm assuming they got a little more treatment than the Ford ones.
Most of what people call "patina" is just dirt. This, however, is patina. =)
It is far more time consuming to rebuild one and try to preserve the dirt and "patina" than it is to run it through the cleaning process. As far as I'm concerned, the important part is to get the passages clean, everything moving properly and get it so it runs right. The dirt and grease is easy to replace.
My "Stan built OF" runs great on my hand crank only 1915 pickup!
" ... As to "show shine" that is just the term I use for the "over shined" "made perfect look" a
lot of cars are restored to. I also feel like a lot of the paint jobs on our Ts are "show shine" and
not like original.
I once judged a car show that had 2 very nice, fresh restoration, Model Ts in it. Both were
very nice and it was hard to choose the best. But one car in my opinion was "over restored"
The paint was so slick that you could not even see the casting marks or grinding marks anywhere.
All of the casting flash and grinding marks were even gone on the front axle. I pointed this out
to the other judges and we chose the correct restored car with the grind marks still showing
instead of the over restored car.
Talk about one P%$$#@ off loser. He was spouting off about how much he had paid to have
his paint job finished to the high quality it was, and other choice words were coming from him.
I tried to explain why he lost to the other car, but he was not concerned with any of that. ... "
I see this a lot with the 50's - 60's cars .... they are not RESTORED, ... they are rebuilt as if
they were hand-built carriages, with everything so over-perfect. Originals were nowhere near
I see that crowd as falling into two camps, ... they guys who love the cars for what they are/
were, and the guys who are in it for the attention a car might bring them. "Spend more money,
you get more attention" is their logic. Works great, so long as one is surrounded by like minded
"moneymen", but crashes hard (as you describe) when someone actually does their judging based
on "original", including the shortfalls and less-than-perfect aspects. Something I call "character",
but for that crew, is seen as simply something to be made "better".
Thanks for the feedback.
Thanksí! The Zenith s4bf carburetor runs great. Stan will do whatever he can to get your T to run as well as possible. Iím very happy with the new adjustable main jet on the bottom of the carburetor.
These bright shiney carbs are a joy to behold. They would look WAY out of place on my coupe. I picked up this OF a number of years ago at a flea market. I stumbled onto it several hours into the event, meaning that others had likely looked at it and passed on it. It looked quite good, even had the original domed mounting bolts and was Very Reasonably priced. No other bits (stove, choke lever, etc) I did not set it down as I reached for my wallet.
It sat on a shelf for a few years before I put it on the car. Just cleaned it off, bolted it on and connected gas, throttle and choke. Started right up. I may be sending it to Uncle Stan to check it over and see if it can any better than it is.