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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Clyde in Cedarville CA on Monday, February 01, 2016 - 02:38 pm:

Does anyone have the dimensions of the Stationary Cone(inner)? Part # 2407. It doesn't look too difficult to make but I would like to know the original O.D. and overall Length. Thanks! Dave


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Dallas TX on Monday, February 01, 2016 - 02:43 pm:

It has to be pretty hard material, and a press fit on the spindle. I will see if I can measure one for you.

There would be a market for replacements, and I might be a customer.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Clyde in Cedarville CA on Monday, February 01, 2016 - 02:43 pm:

Oops, I meant part # 2704. Dave


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Dewey, N. California on Monday, February 01, 2016 - 02:57 pm:

When saying "press fit" it is a very LIGHT press fit. Almost a "push on" by hand fit.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith, Lomita, California on Tuesday, February 02, 2016 - 11:02 am:

I can't think of a part that is pressed on to the spindle, except the top and bottom bushings.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By James J. Lyons III - West Virginia on Tuesday, February 02, 2016 - 12:43 pm:

Those inner cones are not a press fit of any kind. They are a "clearance fit" and generally have about .0005" to .001". Some have more if they have seen a lot of use, but they are still good.

It's probably not worth making them if you just need two for yourself. They are hardened so the cost will be pricey. You can find them at Hershey or other swap meets and they can be re-condition them on a grinding machine.

In any event, I can get you the dimension when I get home later if no one has gotten them to you by then.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Clyde in Cedarville CA on Tuesday, February 02, 2016 - 03:24 pm:

Thanks for your responses! It's snowing here again today, so I am studying while the shop warms up.
Royce: I appreciate your interest, but I don't think I want to manufacture these for sale. If it works out l'll send you a couple to critique!
David and Larry: You guys all seem in agreement re a light interference fit on the spindle. Zero to .0005
James: l just read your thread "1915 front bearings,Departing from stock" 9/13/2013. Great pictures and very informative!
I spent 14 years in a blacksmith shop, am a fair machinist so this is a fun project to get 30x3 wheels on the front of a '16 touring. Dave


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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith, Lomita, California on Tuesday, February 02, 2016 - 04:03 pm:

When I was at Hershey last year, a guy had a bunch of NOS races for either $15 ea or $15 a pair, I can remember.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Clyde in Cedarville CA on Tuesday, February 02, 2016 - 05:20 pm:

THanks for the tip Larry, but I don't get to Hershey, or Chickasaw, or even Auburn. My wife loves to travel, but I stay home as much as I can...when I do travel I go to Seattle to see the grandkids. So the forum classifieds are great for me. And if I can't find something in my piles of junk, I try to make it myself. Sometimes it works. At least good enuff Fer who it's for! Dave


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Dewey, N. California on Tuesday, February 02, 2016 - 09:37 pm:

Dave,
I didn't notice you're in Cedarville. Folks, if you live in Cedarville, you pretty much have to fix & make everything yourself!! Not saying it's small, but you don't even have to blink to miss it!
:-)
Dave, if you put "Wanted" ad in the classifieds here, you're likely to get a couple of races real cheap. Used to be that Langs had them, though usually needing a light regrinding.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By bob middleton on Tuesday, February 02, 2016 - 10:04 pm:

Hi David
Like you I'm seeking this same info but I just posted an add now your kind enouf for the part number
Hope all is well up there keep warm I'm doing the same


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Clyde in Cedarville CA on Tuesday, February 02, 2016 - 11:05 pm:

Hey, Bob good to hear from you! As you can see l got a new project. Still haven't finished the other one, but you know how that goes....Some Winter, eh? Dave


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Clyde in Cedarville CA on Tuesday, February 02, 2016 - 11:18 pm:

David- Yeah, there's not a lot of people around here, but not much traffic either. 120 miles to a traffic light with 3 colors...A really great place to drive a T. Dave


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Dewey, N. California on Wednesday, February 03, 2016 - 01:59 am:

DAve, that's not a bad idea-- a Surprise Valley tour??
:-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Stroud on Wednesday, February 03, 2016 - 04:02 am:

Dave Clyde, I would NOT try to make bearing races. They are not only hard, they are made from very special alloys then heat treated. Try cutting one with a torch and look at the sparks. BAD idea, as far as I'm concerned. As said, many are available if you look a bit. There are many vendors that may be able to help you, plus ebay. JMHO. Dave


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith, Lomita, California on Wednesday, February 03, 2016 - 10:56 am:

I had the big inner race off my '13 yesterday, and it's what I call a slip fit, probably as mentioned above .0005". I pick those races and cones up at swap meets when I find them, cause you never know when you are going to need them.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By bob middleton on Sunday, February 07, 2016 - 12:18 am:

David I posted a want ad here on the forum got enouf fine folks share the stuff at reasonable and fair cost by the end of April I share what I don't use
Why so long just getting last bits at bakersfield


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