1927 "Truck Axle"

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2016: 1927 "Truck Axle"
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard - Dallas on Wednesday, March 16, 2016 - 03:18 pm:

The Encyclopedia refers to a '26-'27 variation of the front axle commonly referred to as a "truck axle", although I gather that it was not for TT's, but cars? Apparently the only difference between it and a regular '27 front axle is that the areas between the spring perches and yokes are straight, not tapered, and therefore look "beefier".

Does anyone have a photo of one that you could post? How rare are they and any guesses on what would be my chances of finding one at Chickasha?

Much Obliged...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill Harper - Keene, NH on Wednesday, March 16, 2016 - 07:01 pm:

I have seen ONE. It was off the vehicle (in a pile of axles) and I had no camera at the time. I was schooled that they were a truck item. Your description of the difference in the perch and yoke area is as I saw it. As to rarity? I would guess that they would be right up there with hen's teeth. Good luck in your search, Bill


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard - Dallas on Wednesday, March 16, 2016 - 11:22 pm:

Thanks, Bill. I'll look for one tomorrow, in case I'm lucky, but expect I'll be bringing back a standard one.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Stroud on Thursday, March 17, 2016 - 03:11 am:

This is interesting. I have never heard of these "truck" axles. I too would like to see a picture of one. I've been messing with TT's off and on for 40+ years and have learned about several things on them just this year on this forum. Again, as I have said, the more I learn about these T's, the less I know! Dave


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eric Hylen- Central Minnesota on Thursday, March 17, 2016 - 07:13 am:

I used to have one. The only thing that I found to be more rare than the axle was a buyer who wanted it. I think I finally found a guy to give me $20 bucks for it. Most folks looked at it, said "that's different" and walked away.

For reference, it did have TT stamped on the flat under one of the spring perches.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard - Dallas on Thursday, March 17, 2016 - 05:02 pm:

No such animal found at Chickasha today. Will see if an ad in Classifieds turns up anything.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker in Sumter SC on Friday, March 18, 2016 - 09:55 pm:

Richard,

If possible, please let us know where in the Encyclopedia you found that information. I tried doing a search on "truck axle" and that wasn't really helpful. I looked under the "Front Axle" at: http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/F-H.htm#fr1 and under the 1926-27 all I saw was:

1926-1927
Similar to 1925 but spindles are higher on the spindle body to lower the chassis. New steering drag link which is about an inch shorter than the previous type. In late 1926 the axle was modified and now had a “droop” or “sag” between the perches.

Below is a photo of the 1927 axle with the "droop" or "sag" between the perches. Are you talking about that or a different front axle? (Thank you to whoever originally posted that photo. I did not save your name with the photo, but if you tell me who posted it, I will add that to the file.)





Respectfully submitted,

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard - Dallas on Friday, March 18, 2016 - 10:17 pm:

Hap,

In the link you posted above for the front axle, you should find immediately below the 1926-1927 paragraph, a short section titled "Front Axle Comments by Trent Boggess". It is there you will see the comments about the 1927 so-called "truck axle."

It is different from the "swoop axle" of the same year.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Gregush Portland Oregon on Friday, March 18, 2016 - 10:36 pm:

From the online encyclopedia;
FRONT AXLE COMMENTS
By Trent Boggess


The other thing that came out in reviewing the axle drawings relates to the so-called 1927 truck front axle. (That's what some people call it, because it is heavier than the standard T axle.) The most distinguishing feature is the shape of the web outbound from the spring perch to the yoke. The area of this web is much more rectangular in shape. That is, the height of the web area does not diminish or taper down towards the yoke. This is what gives this axle the heavier appearance.

We found a drawing with this style web area between the spring perch boss and the yoke labeled “Three-Piece Rolled design.” The drawing indicates that the axle was made up out of three distinct pieces which were butt welded together. The drawing indicates that a butt weld was made in about the middle of this web between the spring perch boss and the yoke. This may have been an experimental design, but these have been seen out there in the world. The experimental department was definitely alive and well in 1926 and 1927.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Burger in Spokane on Friday, March 18, 2016 - 11:34 pm:

No photos = it never happened ! :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker in Sumter SC on Saturday, March 19, 2016 - 09:34 am:

Richard and Mark,

Thanks for pointing me to the correct spot. Searching for "Truck Axle" doesn't find it but searching for "Truck Front Axle" does.

And yes a photograph would be great to see.

Respectfully submitted,

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