Anyone have any information about the poli form bodies such as mounting instructions or data sheets. Anyone actually installed a body on a chassis? Any information or photos would be appreciated.
They had a plywood floor glassed in following the contours of the body, and bolted onto the frame. You would put the body on the frame to determine correct height, mark it and cut the floor to fit.
Mine doesn't have a floor. It looks to me like I need to build a plywood floor with maybe a 2x6 along the outside edge of the sides to bolt the bottom flange of the body to. It also looks like it needs some skirting running down the sides, below the body, to make it look lower.
The front of these bodies cover the frame rails from the firewall to the front cross member. The inside horizontal surface of the front "extensions" set the height of the body on the frame. There is no need to glass in an entire floor. Make up stringers from 3/4 plywood that extend from the inner edge of the frame out to the inside contour of the body, and glass these inside the body using cloth top and bottom, extending from the firewall to just in front of the cutouts for the rear axle tubes. Bolt these stringers to the top frame rail and you're good to go. Add a contoured plywood hoop behind the seat opening in the same manner and add cross members to build a seat box and that's all you need.
The "skirts" are actually built into the body, and the body sits down over the frame about 6" to form the "skirt".
Does anyone have photos of a completed poly form body speedster ? I would love to see some side shots,
Howard, I'm guessing you snagged the body on EBay?
The black unfinished one in Ed's post is mine. It is shown with a 3" drop. It still sets up awful high, in my opinion. That is why I was suggesting a skirt. Dan is right. It already has one. It looks like the black one in Mike's post sets a lot lower. Perhaps it has been channeled?
so does someone make this body for sale? Thanks, Scott
Dan you should tell them the story behind the original bodies and how they came about. Mike Husted
Mike- the entire story will take a page by itself, but I'll see what I can whip up. Get that thing on the road!!! The snow should be melting up there by now!! Dan
I did snag the one off of ebay. To be delivered to me at Bakersfield.
My intention is to create a very nice lowered speedster similar to the low and lean red one #130 pictured above.
I need to finish my 1924 sprint car 1st but that car is now running, soon to be driving.
I have some extra stuff laying around such as Budd 30x3-1/2 wire wheels, Whippet radiator and some other as yet unmentionables,
who owns #130?
thnx for the responses
Check the NWVS website- the owner was pretty active with them in the past- Steve Tomaso might know who owns it. Last I saw it, it had a pretty nicely set up 16 valve Roof on it.
Following up on Dan's suggestion re NWVS - http://www.nwvs.org/CarPhotos/003B/003B.shtml
I for got that I had made a pattern for a one piece windshield and had it cast out of alum. I do not know if I will be coming to Bakersfield this year and should give it to Dan in any case. It is hell to get old and what comes with it. I have pictures of it that I can email if any interest. My system does not let me post pictures. firstname.lastname@example.org
130 info here....
Unfortunately, Helen passed away a month ago.
Here's one listed for sale a week or so ago in California
#232 is Owned by Scott Glennie, it has a Z'd Rear cross member, and a suicide front axle. The engine, and body are pushed back on the frame about 6"
Someplace, I think I have a couple of pages of "instructions" for mounting but I don't remember where I put them. If I remember right, there wasn't much on it. I have tried to amass photos of these cars. Tom Rootlieb had some posted about a year ago on this forum.
The body listed on Craigslist is the same one I just purchased.
car # 3/130 was owned by The late Don Shreve. Not the late Helen Reichlin.
Those are really neat bodies. I remember YEARS ago when Poli-Form was making these bodies and had a booth at the Long Beach Model T Club Swap Meet.
They were better known for making hot rod Ford A and 1932 roadster bodies and fenders. Good luck with your project.Glad to see that this body will become a car.
I understood that Helen & Art bought Shreve's car.
Coming to Bakersfield, Steve ?
Art & Helen did buy the car from Don Shreve and owned it for a few years. Subsequently sold to someone in I believe southern CA.
Anyone know who owns the red #130 now? I hate to bother Art during his time of mourning.
Hello all I am a long time reader of posts but have never posted anything before. I found this thread a couple of days ago and thought that I would post some old photos and information that I have of what we call the Chambers Special. Built by Willie Chambers in the early 1970's. He built several body shells off of his mold. I am told that Poli-form based their design off of this car?
So is there a mold to make new bodys off of? I know some great glass guys. Scott
I really like the styling of these, my only complaint is that the top of the cowl looks too wide and flat, which I guess is OK because it makes it easy to identify a fiberglass one compared to a real Morton & Brett body shown below.
Scott- I am told that the mold does still exist. PM me for details. Here is the car today with me driving.
My understanding is that the molds were damaged or destroyed by a fire at Dick Williams shop (Poliform) years ago. Would be nice if that is not the case.
The Polyform mold is not the mold that the original bodies were made from. The original bodies that Willie made were hand laid up bodies where as the Polyform bodies are made using a chopper gun. The hand laid up bodies are much lighter than the Polyform bodies. The body that Mike Husted has is an original Willie Chambers body. The mold for the Polyform bodies was made off of an original Willie Chambers body by Jim Connors who was a partner in the old Ford Barn T parts business in St Helena, Ca. Willie created the plug for the original mold by scaling the patent drawings he obtained from the US Patent Office, so it quite possible these do not exactly match an original body as noted above. Jim purchased an original Chambers body from me, probably back in the mid to late'70s and had the mold made from that body and sold then thru the Ford Barn business Polyform acquired that mold and AFAIK, used that mold to produce the majority of the MB bodies you see today. Willie was and continues to be one of my real life heroes and is one of the reasons I chose a career as a mechanical engineer.
Lots of wonderful pictures and great information and inspiration here. Thank you all for your postings
So I have had several guys ask about making a mold from my newly acquired body. It can be splashed and a male part/mold can be produced.
I am not going to be doing this car right away as I'm still finishing my 1928 sprint car. So if there is enough interest I guess we can pursue making bodies.
Let me know.