Is it just me or is the "Jim" thing getting a bit out of hand?His business should be off line not here,

Agreed

But on the other hand; for those folks who may need to ship a car and purchase that service then the classifieds is not completely inappropriate. I will concede that the multiple entries did appear to be a bit much. Perhaps Jim was simply trying to clear the deck. I think that he has provided a useful service to more than a few of the forum members.

It does get old, since he advertises on here every day. Anyone who needs to contact him should be able to by now.

I have no problem hearing from and supporting Jim.

From what I understand he has given "special consideration" when moving donated vehicles to the museum, but most of all I enjoy reading about his exploits.

Giving people a heads up about his schedule and potential to move parts, vehicles, etc. is plus to the T community.

It is not significantly different than other people that are involved in the T business that frequent the forum and share advise.

Just my opinion..

Fred and Bill have it right. Maybe it is just us NE folks. Jim has been and is a big + for all the car folks he helps. Don't have to read his stuff if you don't want to. Go out and work on your car.

If the OP is referring to the updates in the Classifieds:

If I get a number of calls from folks wanting to have hauling done on routes shown in older posts,
I will update those posts in a group for Chris to see & he usually will delete those threads quickly.

I do this to delete older hauling threads in the quickest manner when there is a high demand for hauling along routes which I am done with.

I have done this only a few times .....


If this is about my posts on the General Forum:

When I post - it is for the benefit of members.

Not for business.

At times I get to become involved in a great story about a vehicle that is more than just something to drive ...

Or I get to visit a great car collection or a top notch restoration shop.


Last year I ran over my leg with my truck.

I did a really dumb thing & the last thing a smart business person would do is share it on a public forum.

This is the only forum I posted my experience on because this is " home " in a sense for me.

I enjoy folks.

I enjoy traveling & I do this to see the country.

There is no real money to be made in in hauling.

I have a particular affection for the MTFCA because of the love I have for Barbara & Jay Klehfoth.

I have donated my money - my time - my services to transport vehicles over the years to the MTFCA Museum.

I have donated free transport gift certificates for the past few years at the June Homecoming and during MTFCA Fundraising drives.

I have met a lot of Model T folks.

I have had folks come up to me in parking lots because they recognize my trailer and/or the large MTFCA decals on the back.

I enjoy what I am fortunate to do ....


Freighter Jim

Wow ! Is it just me, or do any of you other crusty old codgers notice that as we age, many of our
contemporaries lose their sense or humor and want to take life to the grumpy old curmudgeon
level ?

Maybe three years in a war zone woke me up to what is really worthy of a b!tch session and
what is not ? Have some #@! gratitude that you still have your legs, that you have eyes to read
the #@! forums, that you aren't DEAD ! Life is good. It is also finite. Use it well. Soon it will be
taken from us all.

Cheers.

-Jim-
I, for one, have enjoyed catching your exploits around this country of ours, even knowing you rarely get 'up this way'... Seems to me you have been exceptional in helping others. And, isn't that part of what shows our humanity?? JMHO.

Just me- I am not offended either by Jim's posts, nor by the numerous times that Jack has to re-post because he forgot to add the photo that goes along with the original post.

Both are number 1 in my book!

Jim,

Not trying to chase you away, but suggesting that you possibly get a website, or maybe even better, (cause it's free), a Facebook page that you can update with your current whereabouts and planned destinations and other info, like photos of past hauls & happy customers. Then, a simple reference to the site, made in our classifieds, can direct interested parties to your schedule & contact info.

I don't offer this because I want you "gone", I just think it may be of greater value to you. But, maybe I'm wrong since you know your business better that I do.

Why I seldom post. I have had a Model T for over four decades, read The Forum daily, but I may have posted maybe a total of two dozen times. It is not that I have thin skin, it is because the forum police single out someone and can't leave well enough alone. I hope Jim continues to post and share his experiences on this forum.

I enjoy Jim's comments, they are great but I think nine (9) successive entries in the Classified is a little excessive.... JMHO

Not a problem on this end. He promotes the hobby by what he does for a living and his posts are literate and hobby related. Honestly, if I was going to contact him I'd probably look here first instead of the classifieds. Party on.

Jack, to answer your question at the start of this thread, I think it's just you. There are many topics, comments and even a few people on this board that I don't like but I see no need to call anything or anyone out.

Skip the posts you don't want to read and if you read something you don't like or agree with, just move on or go work on your car and stay off the internet. No one here is qualified to judge what another person does or says.

I will never do facebook, twitter or send a gossip. So this forum gives me a place to find vendors and services. Scott

I use FB to keep up with some friends and relatives. For those who don't, here's something for you.



And one of my favorites:

Well guys, although I made the suggestion, I hate Facebook as much as any of you and think it, along with smartphone addiction, is a social evil. However, for some things, it may have a legitimate use. Like maybe Jim's service, (or maybe not). The other 99.8% of what it's used for however, is absolute trash. The reality is, that there is nothing really "social" about social media. It's a really cheap substitute for actual social interaction.

Anyway, enough of that. Back to the Jim rant...

KUDOS to FREIGHTER JIM
BURGER has it right I think some of you guys need to sit back
Have a few beers and chill. pick on something worth while.
Like politicians !

That's my opinion and I am sticking to it!

Freighter Jim don't bother me none whatsoever. If he did I wouldn't read his posts.

When going through Academy, we had a day where some IT people came in and asked the class if
anyone used My Space or Facebook. Some held up their hands and one of the instructors picked an
unlucky participant and asked for their "handle".

They then entered it and pulled their file up on the overhead screen. They then began to hack into
the account and post all sorts of really bad stuff like kiddy porn right next to the student's family
photos and such.

Naturally, everyone was taken aback and the instructor/s then said, "Do you think that if WE can
do this, there are not bad guys out there who can do the same or worse if they wanted ?

They closed by taking the stuff down and saying very firmly "KEEP YOUR PERSONAL LIFE OFF
THE INTERNET !"

I think if Jim would post more some of [i got away with it once] hauling wannabees might learn?? Bud.

I for one do not mind the postings, it is the people that run off the mouth, never volunteer
there time, MONEY, for the club, he does not get free gas and oil when he hauls parts or cars for the club FREE. The ones that bitch the most
do not haul parts and cars FREE only complain because they half to hit an extra button on the computer. Get a life

I think it's a bit disappointing to to see this kind of post on the forum. Jim has gone out of his way to support the members of this club, and if he wants to use the classifieds to announce his availability in certain parts of the country, he has every right to do so. If some grumpy people disagree maybe it's time for them to review their contributions to this club.

Jim being able to make affordable transport of our cars for forum members is great! I hope someday when I get another broken pos ford that he will be in my area! And I am not just saying this because I am Facebook friends with him. And Facebook is awesome if you just use it for car stuff and car friends

I have used Jim's services in the past and just yesterday recommended him to a friend is need of car transport. He is careful and respectful of the cars, and a service to our hobby. It doesn't bother me a bit to see his postings of his travels.

I have to agree that Jim is a great asset to the "cause".. I tried to use his service to ship my newly purchased T from Calif to Texas. It did not work out for me - unfortunately - and I had to use another (less experienced) transport. While the haul worked out fine. I would still ALWAYS look to Jim first.

Respectfully submitted from a newbee...

Fellows,I don't disagree he has a right to do his thing.He is a member and his contributions are just as important as any of us. He can post a contact in the Suppliers section,any one can contact him,and from there on it is his Private business. An occasional route would be ok as I don't/didn't read his posts. I don't have this overwhelming desire to know his wherabouts.His personal posts are his,period. No where did I personally attack the man or his character. Sadly some of you chose to point out a few of my many character flaws.History will be the judge of that.

I have used Jim's service three times with nothing but fantastic results and highly recommend him. He was instrumental in the purchase our 1909 Model T. I have had Model T's for 48 years and he is OK with me!!

For the development of our hobby we need people like Jim. His assistance in our recent purchase from Steve Redelman was very much a "Well Done". I find that I follow his travels & the people he meets along the way, he follows Henry's Model T philosophy of getting out meeting & greeting in your T to a modern level. thanks Mate & Regards Doug

I vote for Jim

WELL IT LOOKS LIKE SOME OF US HERE CAN SAY..........

THEY SAW THE MOVIE


THEY READ THE BOOK


AND THEY ARE CURRENTLY WEARING THE TEE SHIRT

Lets don't forget,Jim has been very generous to the MTFCA museum.

When I first joined this forum, I enjoyed a lot of posts with self-effacing humor about 20hp and
similar un-macho facets of T ownership. I am seeing less and less of this over the past year or so.

I see a lot of posts I have no interest in at all, and many may find this hard to believe, but I do
this thing I call "skip over" those posts that do not interest me. It is similar to mastering the delete
button that comes with most computers and allows the user to just make stuff go away that they
don't like or care about. It sounds really complicated, but with a strict doctrine of self-discipline
and practice, even a crotchety old curmudgeon can learn to achieve such lofty heights of computer
operations.

I am no David Hasselhoff, and I may have been the smartest kid in the dumb class, but even I
managed to learn these skills !

I don't understand why anyone would pick on Jim??
Jim is no different than the Mark, Stan, Ron, and so many others that sell parts/services for a profit, and continuously "BTT" their ads and reduce prices every six hours. No different then Walmarts advertising in the Sunday paper!!

And there are alot more...Layden, Kim, etc, etc.
If you think the classifieds on this forum are not-for-profit hobbyist, you really need to get your head examimed.
That being said, I am glad these for-profit people advertise their wares. I have purchased from many of them and am grateful they make their products available. I know that if they weren't profiting from their parts or services, they would not be here.

Lang, Bohlen, etc. etc.
The list goes on and on.

Jack- When was the last time you gave parts away?

We should support, applaud and be happy for any member that is successful in making a living from the Model T hobby and uses the forum to appeal directly to the members who would be most likely to use his services. Not only Jim, but members that have parts and services to sell. I read the forum everyday and have never read the classifieds. Since these solicitations would be considered hobby related and thus, not subject to the OT designation, perhaps a designation such as SO (services offered) or FS (For Sale) could be used appease those who, for whatever reason, are offended by, or wish to skip these solicitations. Jim Patrick

Ron ,I give many parts away to help new people,and friends/club members.I reduce parts for many others,trade ,etc. I donate parts, money to museum as much as I feel I can afford.I help others work on their cars at the expense of loosing time to work on my own. Walk in a mans shoes,before you condemn him.All i'm asking is for him to use the system as it is set up.

(Grumble)
I do understand, and agree, that there is a VERY difficult and sometimes fine line between commercialism, and friendly banter.
I personally KNOW that Jack Daron has given a lot to the hobby. And I KNOW that Freighter J donates a lot and contributes in ways most of us do not realize. And the list of other people Ron and John and Glen and Brent and on and on and on and several that so sadly are no longer with us and - - - - -. It is part of the reality.
In the past, some people, usually not model T people, have crossed that line. I don't think Jim has. But that is my opinion.
As for the whole bunch of updated in the classifieds "this one is over and done with"s? I remember Jim did it before. And I saw them, and realized he was doing the same thing again. No big deal. He was in a sense in the only way he can, deleting old postings so people wouldn't waste their time and his for trips that ARE over and done with. By the way, he did have date in the original notices/listings. I guess some people cannot read or look at a calendar.

The little old curmudgeon, me.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2

(Message edited by wayne sheldon on April 21, 2016)

The jones here is one forum member suggesting/directing what others on the forum
should/should not be doing. This is further aggravated when that person could just as
easily skip on past given post/s rather than do what comes off to some as directing
what others can or cannot do, as if they somehow are the Grand Poobah of All Things
Proper.

Jim is not being a D-bag with his posts. If he were, I'd be all for putting the clamps
on it. But he's not, so let's allow everyone the freedom to do their thing ... Jim posts
his posts, and others are free to skip over them if they are not interested. Pretty simple,
really.

Threads like this are almost as bad the commenters on music videos on youtube.

Ron, I have more carburetor business than I can possibly handle. In addition to the carburetor business I am in the auction business with auctions coming up this spring from Dickinson, North Dakota to Darby, Montana --750 miles apart. I have two small ranches and buy and sell used farm machinery as well as leading a band and working for Montana Public Radio. I also teach at auction school a couple times a year and do countless benefit auctions and fundraiser activities locally. At nearly 75, I am thinking about just pulling the plug, selling one of my ranches and taking the money and doing something else for the rest of my life. If you don't like the pictures of the years of experience I share on the forum don't look at them. I'm not looking for business. As of today I am about 35 carburetors behind. I got nine in from one customer last week and as of Wednesday this week I have 4 more. I used to post some of what I saw as helpful information and shortcuts learned in the last 60+ years of working on T's. I don't do much of that any more. About 15 or 20% of what I get has already been through somebody else's shop and still doesn't run right. When it leaves here it does. You don't want the benefit of my expertise -- you just skip right over anything I post.

I tried to do some fundamentals of carburetion posts last year and some douche got on a rant and posted crap for days about what an idiot I am because I was trying to explain that air flow is based on pressure differential before and after the venturi; inside and outside the engine cylinder. So I quit posting anything about it.

All that knowledge I gained studying carburetion and learning to write coherently and succinctly can die with me for all I care. I have rebuilt far more than 1,000 carburetors. Other than Stromberg OF's virtually none of them are for Model T's.

It is 1:30 in the morning right now and I will be back in the shop by 8 AM. One of the carburetors I am working on is for a 1902 Autocar -- one of three known to exist -- and undoing the crap work somebody did on it somewhere back in history.

You can step in and step up any time you want. Send me your phone number and I will forward a few of the half dozen calls I get every day looking for free advice and expertise. You can handle them I'm sure.

As of this moment, my carburetor web site has had 29,071 hits, my auction site has had 21,516 and just the baler page of my machinery sales site has has 14,776. These numbers are from when I redid the sites about two years ago and reset the counters.

I don't think I need to "BTT" my posts to get more business.

"Mark, Stan, Ron, and so many others that sell parts/services for a profit, and continuously "BTT" their ads and reduce prices every six hours."

Model T carburetors are a pretty damn small part of this business enterprise and a service that could disappear pretty easily.

Every time there is an auction with Model T's and parts forum people bitch because it wasn't advertised. I will have good crowd at the June auction whether I post anything on the forum or the classifieds or not. I've been in the auction business for 34 years, this is my 414th auction, we are still one of the most active auction companies in Montana, if not in the top 5 at least in the top 10. I think I can draw a crowd without annoying anybody on here.

I had wondered what had happened to Stan's posts because I always looked forward to them not only to learn more about this hobby but also because of the beautiful works of art he posted and let's be honest his views and experiences in life interested me as well. I don't own a Model T but come here for the enjoyment of people like myself interested in history and things done in the old ways as well as friendship with like minded people.

GUYS, THIS WHOLE THREAD NEEDS TO BE A WAKE UP CALL!!!!!!

WE ARE VERY CLOSE TO LOSING ALL OF THIS!!!
LIGHTEN UP, LIFE IS TOO SHORT FOR THIS @#$%^&*!!

Howard Dennis

SOME PEOPLE WOULD BITCH IF THEY WERE HUNG WITH A NEW ROPE!

Take my wife.........PLEASE!

Aren’t the CLASSIFIEDS for selling things????

Forgive me if this has been said before because I don't have time to read this thread but Jim is doing a lot of good for all of us. If you want to buy or sell a car or parts you know you can count on Jim to move them for you. Something tells me that someday Jim will move a T and it will follow him home to stay. I for one don't mind his posts about hauling because if you look at the listing you know what it is about and don't need to open it unless you want to.

We have a clown here in town with every "NO!" sign I have ever seen (and more) in his yard.
From "Black Lives Matter" to "No War" to "No Oil Trains" this guy wants the whole world to stop
doing anything ! Probably wants everyone to sit down and collect a gub-ment check ....

I think he'd fit right in with a few here on the forum !

Stan,
I used stuff I learned in you posts to improve my personal carb rebuilding. The last A carb I did ran perfectly when I put it on and adjusted the idle. I've rebuilt them for years, but your tips improved my work--thanks!!
Burger, can't find the cartoon, but it fits your posting; shows a guy looking at a sign. On the sign is one word; "BAD,." He's looking at it and says, "Uh-oh, that's not a good sign!"

I think of Jim as a bit of a nomad, and therefore am more than little jealous of his lifestyle. Jim please continue to keep us posted on your exploits.

Jack Said "All I'm asking is for him to use the system as it is set up."

I think that is exactly what JIM, Stan, Ron, etc. are doing. They are sharing their Model T experiences and skills with us all. It is good to know who we can trust.

The forum would die if all it was just a sterile techno-blab about Model T's.
All the discussions about our grandkids, wives, moms and dads, friends, along with pictures of non T vehicles, vacations, etc. etc. would have to go.

Additionally it would be impossible for us to tell someone where they might purchase the part they need to get their T running if we could not mention any of the vendors or warn people about shady characters that sporadically attempt the cheat us.

I like to think that we are a closely knit group of guys with different opinions but a common goal to enjoy and have fun with our Model T's.

Mr Ron Mc Willie ,I will be glad to shine some light on your question.
I needed a main bearing cap for a engine,Jack sent me a new 1.Free.
1 day about 4 years ago I get a big box in the mail.
I open it and it contained a complete valve seat cutting tool for small engine repair along with valve lapping tools and compounds. Free. Jack told me he found the stuff at a yard sale cheap and knew I could use it. About 300 bucks worth if you bought it retail. I have used it several times on projects and stuff I repair to help pay doctor bills.
Ron Patterson,has set on the phone for quite a while talking to me about coils and generators.Free.
Stan ,has answered many a question for me by email about different,sometimes off topic stuff.

Please forgive me for forgetting his name but when I went to Oklahoma in 2008 a forum member let me stay at his place 2 nights and saved me hotel room bills.Even fed me good and gave me a nice wrench made for TT use.
Ray Elkins which some have ask about on here did the same when i went thru his part of the country on the way home.
When I needed a radiator for my TT, another man I can't remember his name in Florida sold me a good 1 for 75 bucks.



Alot of these folks some of you are referring to as crotchety old men have done ALOT for this hobby with little to no fan fare at all.
If you want this hobby to progress, it would be best to stop the name calling and griping.
I can't use the classifieds because I am not a member any more of MTFCA but if it has rules, perhaps everyone needs to reread them and follow.

Stan, as for the information you wanted to share about carbs, is there a way to post it on a website or something? So that folks like myself that would Appreciate it could learn it?
To much knowledge is being lost because of folks dying and taking it with them.Some because they think it makes them irreplaceable,others because they are selfish with it.And as in your case, some feel no one would appreciate it.

Stan,If 1 rectum caused you to not share that knowledge,let us know who the rectum is and we can all tar and feather his unappreciative ##@

IF possible, please pm me your websites so i can check them out? thanks.

Here you go, Mack. There are more than one.

http://www.stanhowe.com/

http://www.strombergof.com/

http://frontrangeauctions.com/

http://www.montanamusicians.com/profile/StanHowe

http://www.npr.org/2008/09/14/94554254/whats-in-a-song-stan-howes-yellowstone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT6vp-YgkIg

After reading this post I got to wondering why the MTFCA home page doesn't have a section for services.
There is one for parts suppliers but it would make things much more efficient if it could be changed to parts suppliers and services.

After reading the forum for a few years now I have wondered why some folks will promote or offer their work or services through the forum or classifieds instead of using the parts suppliers section. Maybe its time to do it. Yes I know there are folks that will perform work or a service in a small way. But maybe the ones that make it a large part of their living it would make sense.

I sure wish Stan's Ruckstell site was still up, it had some great pictures on it - but, since he doesn't do Ruckstells for hire anymore I can understand why he took it down.

Stan, if you have a photo album online somewhere of all your Ruckstell pictures, can you PM me with a link to it, or post the link here? Thanks!

Mark I took the Ruckstell site down because I was spending hours and hours every month offering free advice and tech support to people rebuilding one or looking to buy one from somebody. Hard to make money doing that. I also deleted the photo album of it that was on line for the same reason.

Steve, you missed a couple, here is one more.

www.montanabarncars.com

And another one:

http://www.ralphdecampartist.com/

They probably won't like me posting this either. I don't care who likes it and who doesn't.

Mack, it is not just me. I could name you a dozen people with tons of experience and expertise gleaned from hundreds of years of combined experience and study who will not participate in the forum because there are a few people who argue with anything and everything, know more than everybody else and fill up every post with photos from 1950's high school textbooks and nefarious reference material as well as their own opinions to where it is not worth it to try and share any knowledge on here.

I'm one of them. Go back and search some threads and you will find it is the same guy over and over and over and a couple others who are right behind him.

I do not have time or energy or the temperament to argue over what I know or don't know with some jerk who has never done anything but knows everything.

I do not have any tech support on my web sites because it turns into hours and hours of phone calls and emails of people either wanting me to do their homework for them over the phone or by email or somebody wanting to tell me I don't know what I'm talking about.

Off to the shop.

There is a place I the MTFCA site for vendors an suppliers, listed as "Parts Suppliers".
This thread started as wondering if the "Jim thing" was getting out of hand. There was no grumpy old men, no complaints against phone call, no rants but it has degenerated into that. I suppose a forum like this allows an outlet for folks want to complain that all is bad and the end of the world is coming.....
I still think that nine successive posts by Jim in the Classified was a little to much.... I am not a grumpy old man, I love phone calls and still fix stuff for free....

There's a "Classifieds"?

For members who don't want to read my threads on the General Forum - I am using the prefix " FJ - " in front of my posts ....

For the other members who have posted their support - thanks ....


Freighter Jim

You know that might work for several of us.Being I am getting very grey headed and pushing 50 up hill all the way,I am becoming a middle age curmudgeon and should put MJC or Td in front of threads I start in case someone doesn't want to read my post.

Here's a prefix for me. OFSO... (Old fart spouting off). Jim Patrick

while I understand the opinions of the minority here, what they do not address is the time sensitive nature of Jim's posts.

The Parts Supplier section, as I see it, is a static place to hang your business card. What Jim was doing was to announce his current availability. If that isn't a post for the classified section I don't know what is.

John,

You are making sense but I am sorry ....

That does not apply to some folks ....


Regarding my posting regarding available routes in the Classifieds:

At the top of the Classifieds:

" This is your one-stop web site for Model T cars, parts, literature and services either For Sale, Wanted or Trade. "

" Services " are included in case some folks may have missed that ...

By the way - I am a dues paying MTFCA member & have been for years.


Freighter Jim

Jim, I have no complaints about posting with your location in the Classified or even here, but I think nine successive posts is an overreach.
While on the subject, the guys who "bump" their posts, every couple of hours, without adding any more information, also tend to annoy me rather than prompting curiosity.
By the way, I too am allowed my opinion, but I don't feel compelled to do it nine times in succession. Why did you?

time to put this to bed beat on some thing else or go play in the shop

Tony,

You might have missed this near the top in my reply to the OP:

" If the OP is referring to the updates in the Classifieds:

If I get a number of calls from folks wanting to have hauling done on routes shown in older posts,
I will update those posts in a group for Chris to see & he usually will delete those threads quickly.

I do this to delete older hauling threads in the quickest manner when there is a high demand for hauling along routes which I am done with.

I have done this only a few times ..... "


Freighter Jim

BETTER WAY
I always thought that it would be better to Advertise Services in VINTAGE FORD that way people who do not read the Forum would see Services Offered and a phone number would enable anyone to find out where he is at any moment.
Ditto Model T Times

-Don

Don,

I cover all the bases.

Some folks never go on the old interweb,
they don't know how to use a computer
and have no interest in learning .

If you are refrring to the MTFCA Quarterly magazine ...

Pick up a copy of " Vintage Ford " and you will see my simple text ad under " Services " in the classifieds.

Unfortunately that does not tell where I am currently available to haul from ....


Freighter Jim

(Message edited by enclosed_ford_transport on April 22, 2016)

(Message edited by enclosed_ford_transport on April 22, 2016)

A little story as to how all this got started. Many times Jay would ask local volunteers to go and pick up a donated item and bring it back to the MTFCA museum. This particular time Jay again asked several of us to make another trip soon after an especially long one into New York. I had seen a thread on the forum about this guy from Dayton, Ohio that hauled old cars and was going to be very close to where the donated vehicle was; and he was empty and headed back towards Dayton. I mentioned it to Jay and the rest is history. I can't count the number of cars and other items that Jim has brought to us, some for free and the rest at a very reasonable rate. We all owe him a big thank you for a job well done and I hope he continues to support the MTFCA and the museum.

So this is all Jerrys' fault ....

I still need to get that shelving in New York back to the museum ...

What I do is nothing in comparison to those who donated over 10,000 hours & still counting to finish the MTFCA Museum when it was just a shell.

Jerry Kramer is one of them.

To all of those Model T lovers in the Richmond, IN area who have worked behind the scenes over many years to keep things running ....

THANK YOU



Freighter Jim