Trailer Tie-down - Tire web straps for E-track?

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2016: Trailer Tie-down - Tire web straps for E-track?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Derek Kiefer - Mantorville, MN on Sunday, May 15, 2016 - 09:44 am:

I recently ordered a 26' enclosed trailer with full-length E-track spaced 57" O.C. I will need to purchase some straps that will work with Model T sized tires.

Do these work well without rubbing on anything, or is there another style that works better?



Does anyone have any recommendations?

Thanks!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Peter B. Ratledge on Sunday, May 15, 2016 - 10:55 am:

Derek, I tie all four wheels of my Model T down in my Trailer.I do not have the E-track set up. I have 4 D-rings bolted to the floor. I went to Harbor Freight and got 2"ratcheting tie downs. I made them go completly over each tire. I also sewed a piece on the strap to the side so it would not slide off. It works very well. I do not like to tie anything to the axles because it wears the paint.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chris Brancaccio - Calgary Alberta on Sunday, May 15, 2016 - 10:59 am:

I have used the tire type for years. They work great.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Schedler, Sacramento on Sunday, May 15, 2016 - 11:04 am:

Have someone with an industrial sewing machine (like an upholstery shop) make them. Aren't they somewhat universal? They don't have to be made for 30X3 1/2, do they?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Seth - Ohio on Sunday, May 15, 2016 - 12:11 pm:

Derek,

If you leave the tire attached to the car when you tie it down it will hold the car in place better :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Peter B. Ratledge on Sunday, May 15, 2016 - 01:06 pm:

Hal, They have to be made for the 30" wheel, the way I do it, because the strap goes over the tire.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dean Kiefer - Adams, MN on Sunday, May 15, 2016 - 01:11 pm:

Derek, when I store my T in it over the winter I will not need any straps.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Brough on Sunday, May 15, 2016 - 01:30 pm:

What about something like this?

side mount tire strap

http://www.uscargocontrol.com/Towing-Auto-Hauling/Wheel-Nets-Auto-Car-Tie-Downs/ Side-Mount-Wheel-Net-W-Ratchet-and-Flat-Hook?gclid=CK3PxqHN3MwCFZM6gQod6TsPVw


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rod Barrett - Anderson, IN on Sunday, May 15, 2016 - 01:31 pm:

Harbor Freight sells them and they work great on all my T's.
http://m.harborfreight.com/over-the-wheel-tie-down-bonnet-97230.html


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Fred Dimock, Newfields NH, USA on Sunday, May 15, 2016 - 07:15 pm:

Dennis.

I think you have identified my problem.

Now all I need is a trailer and car to go with the tire.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chuck Martel in Temperance MI on Sunday, May 15, 2016 - 07:53 pm:

This is the system I use, works very well for me.

I got the straps from etrailer.com.


(Message edited by Chuck_cherry_valley_il on May 15, 2016)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Terry Horlick in Penn Valley, CA on Sunday, May 15, 2016 - 08:19 pm:

Derek, yes that works fine. If you get them make sure you get the kind that is adjustable and fits everything. If you get one that is sewn for a specific tire size you are wasting your money.

This has been discussed here before, search out the old posts to see the various designs available.

I switched to that type of tie-down maybe 15 years ago after damaging my 1913 T. Never any problem since. My straps have held down my daughter's big RAM pickup, my T's, my MG TC, friends VW bus, little Toyotas, even the little kid's dirt bike wheels on my gyroplane...NO PROBLEM!



TH


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Michael Thomas - Centerville, Iowa on Sunday, May 15, 2016 - 09:05 pm:

I know it is stupid to argue with success. But when I see the straps going straight down, it causes me to think. Straight down, will certainly hold the wheel down. But it doesn't do much for keeping the car from going forward or backward. Simple vectoring and calculating forces would show that would be the least effective way of keeping the car from moving in either direction. The more of an angle between the tire and the track would effectively increase the load capacity of the strap.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Lloid on Sunday, May 15, 2016 - 09:20 pm:

I use the D rings on my opens trailer but am buying a new enclosed for the 27 roaster. As far as not strapping to the axles to make sure the paint doesn't get messed up I use additional axle straps made of nylon. Then u hook your ratchets to the axle straps. Never anything scratched yet. Tim


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Terry Horlick in Penn Valley, CA on Sunday, May 15, 2016 - 11:11 pm:

Michael Thomas, they work so well for the reason you outline. Yes they hold down because the front strap pulls down and forward, the rear strap pulls down and rearward. The strap behind the wheel keeps it from going forward. The strap in front of the wheel prevents it from going back. The downward portion of the force vectors produced combine with gravity to prevent the car from floating away.

If you enlarge my photo and look at the main landing gear wheel you will see what I mean.

TH


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Peter B. Ratledge on Monday, May 16, 2016 - 07:43 am:

Michael, I attach a 2" strap to a D ring that is bolted to the floor. The strap goes completely over each tire. I sew a piece of strap to each side so it won't move. The D rings are placed so the straps will be on a angle, not straight up and down. It works very well for me.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Townsend ; ^ ) Gresham, Orygun on Thursday, May 19, 2016 - 11:51 pm:

Derek-

Pete Ratledge sent these to me and asked if I would post them here for you:





: ^ )

Keith


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Derek Kiefer - Mantorville, MN on Friday, May 20, 2016 - 10:23 pm:

Thank you for posting, those look like they work very well.


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