OT - cross another one off the bucket list! Over 70 mph in a 1907 Ford.

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2016: OT - cross another one off the bucket list! Over 70 mph in a 1907 Ford.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen - Eastern Nebraska on Tuesday, May 17, 2016 - 11:09 pm:

Hit it. We had a beautiful spring evening, cool and almost no wind (no wind in Nebraska is reason to celebrate on it's own).

We have a smooth stretch of highway, but only about two miles before a bridge with bumps limit the runway. The first try, the Model K started to cut out at 68 mph. I stopped to check the gas, and realized the mixture was about a turn too rich.

On the second try, all good. The Garmin showed 72.2 mph, and there was some left. So, the ads were true:



Dropbox video:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/krehhqufzj5yanq/Video%20May%2017%2C%208%2052%2030%20PM.mov?dl=0



The end result:



Not bad for a pre-1910 car........


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Frost on Tuesday, May 17, 2016 - 11:30 pm:

I don't find this to be OT. Great job.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Wednesday, May 18, 2016 - 01:56 am:

FUN! Ain't it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Don Booth@ Bay City, Mi on Wednesday, May 18, 2016 - 05:31 am:

That takes some unusually large gonads in my opinion. But like they say.. "Its more fun to go fast in a slow car than to go fast in a fast car".


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chris Barker, Somerset, England on Wednesday, May 18, 2016 - 07:26 am:

Good on fuel too!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Skingley ......Westland, Michigan on Wednesday, May 18, 2016 - 07:40 am:

The fact that the Model K would go that fast as a production car, must have given Henry Ford a boost when selling the NRS cars. His reputation for building fast cars was in the show room. The affordable car made perfect sense.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Blanchard on Wednesday, May 18, 2016 - 08:41 am:

Cool! you should see about connecting a mic with a wind-cover to you collar so we can hear what you are saying. What a great ride... thanks for the video!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange - Hillsboro, MO on Wednesday, May 18, 2016 - 08:45 am:

Congratulations! :-)

I believe that I read elsewhere that you solved your plug fouling problem, can you share what you did to fix it?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman Bolz on Wednesday, May 18, 2016 - 09:57 am:

Congratulations.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Freighter Jim on Wednesday, May 18, 2016 - 10:06 am:

Rob,

" Flight of the Valkyries " ...

A fitting soundtrack I must say ....

You are one cool brave dude .... :-)


Freighter Jim


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Derek Kiefer - Mantorville, MN on Wednesday, May 18, 2016 - 11:23 am:

Frank Kulick went a lot faster than that... come on Rob, don't be a wimp. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Gumbinger, Kenosha, WI on Wednesday, May 18, 2016 - 11:40 am:

Rob, Thanks for making and posting the video as it allows all of us to go sort of go along for the ride. Fun, ain't it? :-)

Keith


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gilbert V. I. Fitzhugh on Wednesday, May 18, 2016 - 01:45 pm:

You need a second camera on the steering column focused on your face, so we can enjoy your great monster grin. What a blast you must be having! I presume you can only do this before the biggest flying insects are out in force, or you'd have to chisel dead bugs out of your teeth. (Or stop grinning!)

I got my 1907 one-cylinder Cadillac over 30 mph once, but it didn't feel the same.

Thanks for sharing!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Sean Butler Huntington Beach, CA on Wednesday, May 18, 2016 - 02:02 pm:

Thanks for letting us live vicariously through your adventures, Rob. Way - too - cool...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen - Eastern Nebraska on Wednesday, May 18, 2016 - 04:07 pm:

Thanks guys.

Robert S., personally, I think the Model K was an attention getter for Ford Motor Co.. In addition to Henry Ford, the Dodges, George Holley, one of the Gray and Davis owning Model K, the branch managers owned or were photographed driving Model K.

The Model K was similar to the NRS and eventually Model T in a couple of other aspects. It was the lowest priced, best horsepower to weight ratio car in it's class. Below are a few other cars that were advertised as 70 mph cars, along with their list prices.

Robert B., I used a GoPro camera, and learned that it does not have as good of built in mic as the iPhone. I think in the future I'll harness up the iPhone. Besides, one of my daughters wants to use the GoPro so I'll pass it along to her.

Jim, thanks, I thought that was appropriate music for the occasion. I told my wife just before trying the 70 mph barrier, and she asked me if I would never go that fast again if I made it. I agreed. When I came in last night she also told me not to tell her parents about it when they visit this weekend. So this will be our little secret..........
:-)

Derek, your right, Frank Kulick went much faster, many times, over many years. One of my major regrets is that he did not write a memoir or autobiography. I did have the good fortune to speak with two of his nephews, and they told us several good stories about Frank Kulick and his relationship with Henry Ford and a few other Ford employees. He also told them about his famous wreck with the six cylinder racer.

Keith, you know you are somewhat to blame for this Model K affliction. Without your help I could never have loaded that K touring on that snowy day several years ago..........

Gil, I hope we see you and one of your great cars at New London to New Brighton this year........ We'll have Camp Ford up and going again.

Sean, my pleasure.

A few other "70mph cars", along with their cost in today's dollars. The Model K Roadster at $2800, would cost about $70,000 today.

$6,000 Lozier, $150,000 today.


65 hp Hotchkiss, $6,500, $162,000 today. 50 hp Pope-Toledo, $4,250, $106,000 today. 50 hp Matheson, $5,000. $125,000 today:


50 hp Apperson, $4,500, $112,000 today:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Seth - Ohio on Wednesday, May 18, 2016 - 08:20 pm:

Well That is just too cool to see two old objects traveling at 70 MPH. How long did it take to wipe the smile off your face and get all the bugs off your teeth?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Michael Garrison - Rice Minnesota on Wednesday, May 18, 2016 - 08:39 pm:

Thus ends the 1907 Nebraska Speed Trials.

Great job Mr Hyen. That's the kind of excitement that keeps us young. I remember hitting 50 mph with my little yellow Model T speedster. It was a much different experience than 50 mph in my Corvette. :-) But it all pales to the experience of you going 70 mph in an automobile that is nearly 110 yrs old.

Congratulations.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gilbert V. I. Fitzhugh on Wednesday, May 18, 2016 - 08:44 pm:

Sorry, Rob, no NL-NB this year. We're taking kids and grandkids to a dude ranch in Colorado that week. But I hope to do the Lansing-Dearborn and OCF. Will you be there? Next year, I hope, the NL-NB.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Terry Horlick in Penn Valley, CA on Wednesday, May 18, 2016 - 08:47 pm:

Try that on a 1907 road for real excitement!

TH


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Vaughn - Lincoln, NE on Wednesday, May 18, 2016 - 08:50 pm:

Rob - You are going to have to buy a box of toothpicks to keep in you toolbox so that you can pick the bugs out of your teeth!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Robison on Wednesday, May 18, 2016 - 09:00 pm:

There are a few moments while you're at speed your face is much like Top gear host Jeremy Clarkson.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen - Eastern Nebraska on Wednesday, May 18, 2016 - 09:33 pm:

Denny, we only had one car out. Oh, I get it, TWO old objects...... :-)

Mike, when I was a young fellow, my first car was a 69 Camaro SS, 350 cu. in. with performance enhancements (sounds like a ciallis commercial). My second car was a 68 Corvette, 327, and just as fast.........

A year later, when I got my license back, my next car was a Chebby Vega. :-(

I CAN'T BE TRUSTED WHEN SPEED IS CONCERNED

So, back to life as normal.

Gil, yes, we plan to be in Detroit again in September, see you then.

Terry, we routinely go 50 plus on our gravel roads. Nearby are dirt roads, and when it's been dry for a while, they are the smoothest, nicest surface one can imagine for speed. See my story about my first two cars above......

Mike V., I had to get a little more cushion from you when you told me how fast you've gone with your T speedster.

Mike, I noticed a little of that on the video, so I went back to try to capture a frame. My face is catching a little wind:


A frame where you can make out "71" on the Garmin:


And our youngest went to town for fuel with me in the K a few minutes ago. She took a selfie of us leaving the station. I didn't realize it, but selfie's are mirror images. She's not driving:


Enjoy your summer, we are......


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Michael Garrison - Rice Minnesota on Wednesday, May 18, 2016 - 09:43 pm:

Oh crap, you had to bring up the Cialis. I'm so lonely! :-(


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen - Eastern Nebraska on Wednesday, May 18, 2016 - 09:48 pm:

Mike, I didn't think you really read this stuff, just looked at the pictures...... :-)

And I see you spelled it correctly (I didn't).


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Michael Garrison - Rice Minnesota on Wednesday, May 18, 2016 - 10:48 pm:

Of course I read this stuff. I'm here alone, in a trailer park, in the dark. Just me, my dog and my cats. I take Cialis and live life on the edge, four hours at a time. :-)

Is that really the correct spelling?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR on Wednesday, May 18, 2016 - 10:49 pm:

Congrats, Rob. I know that was your goal when you bought the car. Worth the wait, I'm sure. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By G.R.Cheshire on Thursday, May 19, 2016 - 11:49 am:

Rob I see you finally got the new K broke in, congrats. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gilbert V. I. Fitzhugh on Thursday, May 19, 2016 - 02:13 pm:

OK, you crossed it off your bucket list. And you promised your wife you'd never do it again. So I presume there's no more reason for you to hang onto a primitive car with no weather protection - Geez, Louise, not even fenders! Don't Nebraska roads have cow poop? - whose performance is off limits to you BUT ONLY TO YOU. Will it be for sale to someone whose bucket list is unfulfilled and who has made no promises to his wife? (I am not on that roster, but there surely is a roster.)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gilbert V. I. Fitzhugh on Thursday, May 19, 2016 - 02:17 pm:

Alternatively, you could rent it, complete with video camera and GPS, to people of the pecuniary persuasion who would pay some bucks for a once-in-a-lifetime thrill and bragging rights.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen - Eastern Nebraska on Thursday, May 19, 2016 - 03:45 pm:

Gil,
I'm in the process of putting the fenders back on. Both the single rumble and double seat are ready for use, so the car will assume the role of people carrier, parade and show car, and generally become a lap dog. However, we all know within this tired old piece of iron lives a tiger..........

And, I promised not to go that fast, but anything under 70 is probably fair game.

:-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Duey_C on Thursday, May 19, 2016 - 04:34 pm:

How did it handle/feel at speed?
Must've been fine as no mention of it. :-)
Too cool!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Seth - Ohio on Thursday, May 19, 2016 - 06:26 pm:

Your safety helmet seems to have some fuzz on it...:-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Seth - Ohio on Thursday, May 19, 2016 - 06:29 pm:

It posted too soon, I was going to add that if you clean off that helmet you can get another MPH faster...Just like swimmers


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen - Eastern Nebraska on Thursday, May 19, 2016 - 08:08 pm:

Duey,
The K handles well at speed, as at other times. The suspension is firm, and the 36" tires and long (120") wheelbase make the car feel very stable. I've driven our N and T's on snow and ice, but the K is more stable and sure footed, probably due to the things mentioned above.

Just like the T, the Ford planetary steering makes steering very easy. It's a pleasure to drive, even at 70mph.

Denny, I do have a couple of helmets I bought to use with the K, but hate to give up the sights and sounds.....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Duey_C on Thursday, May 19, 2016 - 09:17 pm:

:-)
Thanks for that.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Constantine on Friday, May 20, 2016 - 07:19 am:

Well done Rob. You've been talking about the "70mph" thing here for years; you've finally nailed it.

Can you please now take on the "which is the best Model T engine oil" question.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Fischer - Arroyo Grande, CA on Friday, May 20, 2016 - 12:55 pm:

Sheesh. Maybe if I get my wife to watch the video, she will lighten up about me flying my 73 year old airplane.

Dick


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Noel D. Chicoine, MD, Pierre, SD on Friday, May 20, 2016 - 02:08 pm:

Just watched the video, Rob. What a thrill! Your smile and bouncing over the bumps in the bridges was the epitome of fun. Congratulations!!! I bet the old girl had a great time when you opened her up. Probably brought back memories of her younger years. Thanks for the fun video


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Bishop, San Diego on Friday, May 20, 2016 - 03:33 pm:

Rob,
Nice job! My real car doesn't go that fast! Glad you finally achieved one of your wishes. Congrats.
Now, how much is that gonna cost you with the wife???


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Carnegie Spokane, WA on Friday, May 20, 2016 - 08:53 pm:

Pretty smooth running old Ford. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen - Eastern Nebraska on Saturday, May 21, 2016 - 10:44 pm:

Constantine, we achieved 63 with our touring. With 34 inch tires, and weighing 400-500 more pounds, it was advertised to go a mile a minute, and we proved it could. It was entirely stock, down to the original iron pistons.

When we sold the touring to buy this roadster, I wanted to learn if the 70 mph advertised by Ford was legit. Now we know it was.

Dick, I would love to fly in an early aircraft, although I'm not sure I would have the nerve. Later I'm posting the story of an early Ford dealer who became an early pilot (1908). He originally drove fast cars, and a newspaper said his transition to flying was his postgraduate work (after fast cars).

Noel, when the mixture is right, this old six cylinder motor really roars. It's definitely an experience........

Bob, always good to hear from a (former) Nebraskan. :-)

Tom, I bet you would like it. Maybe someday we could run with the cars that follow the Montana 500. That's on my bucket list too.....


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