OT - Triumph Mayflower

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2016: OT - Triumph Mayflower
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Andria Myers----------Long Beach, CA on Sunday, May 22, 2016 - 03:07 am:

I have recently acquired a 1953 Triumph Mayflower in need of a lot of attention. I have told Henry the Roadster and Henrietta the Coupe that he is a just a "foreign exchange student" (not a permanent member of the family....yet).

Does anyone have or have had a Mayflower or know any Mayflower owners (even outside of the T clubs). Also any info on parts available in anyone's garage or "extras" piles.

I would appreciate any contacts as the Mayflowers were fairly few in number in the US.
I have already sent the UK club an email with a membership inquiry.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Doug Partington on Sunday, May 22, 2016 - 03:25 am:

Before you get to excited, quite a few came down under, it was so hard to believe they were related to the Triumph TR2 & of course the Vanguard & the Fergy tractor. The Fergy was the better of that group followed by the TR2 then the Guardsvan & remember they have Lucas (prince of darkness)electrics. A mate of mine used to tow his Lotus racing car behind one he always left the day before the rest of us.
Good Luck? Doug


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Andria Myers----------Long Beach, CA on Sunday, May 22, 2016 - 03:39 am:

Front Side
Rear Hood Ornament


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Frank van Ekeren (Australia) on Sunday, May 22, 2016 - 03:39 am:

If I remember rightly, the first few years of the Mayflower's had a p**s ant 4 banger side valve with about as much power as a 3.5hp Briggs lawn mower!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Andria Myers----------Long Beach, CA on Sunday, May 22, 2016 - 03:50 am:

Yes, Alex Watt already told me Triumph parts were uniform #'s so use the Mayflower parts list to find same in other models - I do need to find the parts list. Also I've found a Lucas parts or conversion list for the Mayflower to other models. I got this one from a very dear friend so it has exceptional sentimental meaning.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Andria Myers----------Long Beach, CA on Sunday, May 22, 2016 - 04:01 am:

Top orientation. But hopefully the head is in the shed somewhere. I did find the head gasket - 2 in fact.

top engine


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Wilson, Saint John NB, Canada on Sunday, May 22, 2016 - 08:00 am:

I live in New Brunswick Canada and these cars were fairly common here in the early 50's. My father was part owner of the Standard Vanguard/Triumph Mayflower distributorship for the province of New Brunswick. As a result my aunt had one of these cars. I remember people referring to them as baby Rolls-Royce because of the knife-edge lines. I have a Vanguard originally sold by my father's dealership and would love to have a Mayflower as well. I saw one at a car show in Florida a few years ago and it had an Austin engine installed in it. Good luck with your new find!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Wilson, Saint John NB, Canada on Sunday, May 22, 2016 - 08:03 am:

Doug. Speaking of "the Prince of Darkness". Do you know why Englishmen like warm beer? Because Lucas made their fridges.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Sunday, May 22, 2016 - 08:51 am:

And if Lucas made guns, wars would never start.... :-)

Small world, Dave. My grandfather was born in NB, grew up in PEI and then went to Mount Allison - probably in the late 1890s. From there he went to McGill and then on to Queens. He rented a room in Kingston from a woman who had a daughter, whom he eventually married. And here I am...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Frank Harris from Long Beach, CA on Sunday, May 22, 2016 - 10:05 am:

If Lucas made T V sets they would leak.

Lucas did make vacuum cleaners because they wanted to make at least one thing that didn't suck.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Barrett in Auburn Ca. on Sunday, May 22, 2016 - 10:11 am:

The English drink warm beer because they have Lucas refrigerators.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary Schreiber- Santa Isabel Ecuador on Sunday, May 22, 2016 - 12:39 pm:

We've owned a few British cars and attended shows with the various clubs we belonged to. Saw a few Mayflowers at shows and really liked the lines. Sadly never owned one but G/L with your search for spare parts.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Dewey, N. California on Sunday, May 22, 2016 - 01:36 pm:

That's so ugly, it's cute!
Every country had its great inventors; here in the US we had Edison, with the light Bulb, Bell with the Telephone, and Britain had Lucas, who invented the Short Circuit!
Frank, that's a new Lucas one for me--good 'un!
Somewhere I saw the blue prints for a Lucas headlight switch, showing the three operating positions: Off, On, and Flicker!
I think Lucas accidentally made the first intermittent wiper switch too.
Good luck with parts--and remember DO NOT put American Brake Fluid in it (type 3) only use Girling (type 4). Don't ask me how I know about that one (Hint: Nash Metropolitan).


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Lloid on Sunday, May 22, 2016 - 01:57 pm:

Good luck finding parts but I am sure they are out there. Neat little car. Tim


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Sunday, May 22, 2016 - 02:17 pm:

I have also had a few British cars through the years....

http://www.team.net/sol/humour/car_laws.html


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Burger in Spokane on Sunday, May 22, 2016 - 02:24 pm:

What was it with the Brits and their toady cars ? This one really looks like a bullfrog
staring back at you from the pond !


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob from Nova Scotia on Sunday, May 22, 2016 - 03:38 pm:

Where in New Brunswick Dick? My entire family is from there.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Aaron Griffey, Hayward Ca. on Sunday, May 22, 2016 - 04:29 pm:

Type 3 and 4 brake fluid mix and can be interchanged.
For many years all brake fluids are compatible with each other.
The dealers used American brake fluid in British cars, I always have, you can too.
The danger that David warns about does not apply any more.
There was a time when American brake fluid would soften the rubber parts in British brake and clutch parts.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Sunday, May 22, 2016 - 04:51 pm:

Good question, Rob. My great-grandfather was born in Mapleton NS (then Maccan Mountain, I believe) and was a Methodist minister and teacher. My grandfather's birth record shows that he was born in "North Darby, New Brunswick." I can't find anywhere by that name, but there is a Derby NB. In Google Earth, it looks like an intersection and a school and not much else, but my grandfather was born in 1880 and a lot can change in 136 years. At some point, they moved to Charlottetown PEI. My great-grandparents are buried in Charlottetown. I still have distant cousins in NS and PEI but have lost touch with them. I was through that area in 1977 and would love to get back. Perhaps some day....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By TIM GRAY on Sunday, May 22, 2016 - 06:34 pm:

Bill at Classic and sports car part in Columbia SC has about 900 MG and Triumph cars on about 15 acres. I have seen Mayflowers there. 803-920-5363 give him a call


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Andria Myers----------Long Beach, CA on Sunday, May 22, 2016 - 09:09 pm:

Wow. I feel like just wandered through a wind tunnel or a ...fun house with all those ...uh ...well ... good luck wishes?? I think I heard a few snickers and a little giggling in there too. I feel confused - I think.

We just got back from the Queens-English car show in Van Nuys. Met a bunch of nice Triumph club people (but really, you know, you just can't beat all the terrific Model T people !! They're the BEST)

Don't worry I won't be needing any brake fluid for a while.
Can't GO - Don't need to STOP :D


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Wilson, Saint John NB, Canada on Sunday, May 22, 2016 - 10:23 pm:

Here's a possible source for parts: http://www.kipmotor.com/


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Andria Myers----------Long Beach, CA on Monday, May 23, 2016 - 02:28 am:

Thanks Dave - They have a parts manual that I will investigate.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ALAN FAIRCLOUGH on Monday, May 23, 2016 - 11:13 am:

I learned how to drive in my father's standard Vanguard. There were only two in Argentina and both were dark gray. The second one belonged to one of my school teachers Errol Merness.
On my first drive my dad did a dumb thing, he asked me if I wanted to "ease" it into the garage. Not the best way to tech a kid to use the clutch.
Top speed was about 80 Km/h but it never let us down. I wonder where it is now....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jay F. Cramer on Monday, May 23, 2016 - 10:10 pm:

you might want to check with the Vintage Triumph Register. There is a guy in Des Moines with a Triumph Reknown Limo, one of two running in the US. It is a couple of years older than your Mayflower, but has similar styling. On the brake fluid matter, not all British cars used Girling brakes. Morris used Lockheed brakes since at least the 30's, so I have never had any issues with fluid/cup compatibility.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Andria Myers----------Long Beach, CA on Wednesday, May 25, 2016 - 05:28 am:

Kip Motor was a great referral Dave. I ordered the Parts Manual and the Shop Manual. Thanks again.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Wilson, Saint John NB, Canada on Wednesday, May 25, 2016 - 08:36 am:

Glad you found something. I also joined the Standard Motor Club to get more info on my Vanguard. I was able to obtain a few parts from them and also have ordered a "Build Record" from them. They have ones for Triumphs available as well. www.standardmotorclub.com The contact for Build Records is David Groom at harrygroom@aol.com


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Fred Dimock, Newfields NH, USA on Wednesday, May 25, 2016 - 01:42 pm:

How can The Brits rule the waves when their vehicles can't go thru a mud puddle?


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