I've had these in my possession for sometime now. They came with a some parts I got for my T. I have absolutely no knowledge on them. Can someone fill me with how they are conditionally, with the maker, and just the overall worth? Thank you in advance!
They are Borg Warner overdrive transmissions from a 1950's Rambler adapted to a T driveline. Quite a few were made years ago. Not only is it an overdrive but you can also use 2nd gear in the tranny for an underdrive, so you don't need a Ruckstell for hill country. We have worked with some of these and they work well if you know how to set up and operate them. You need rear wheel brakes or real good life insurance before putting one in your car. Lots of ways to get into neutral.
Thanks Erik! Any idea how much they may be worth?
A Long Beach Model T fellow now long gone named Orville Enyeart. made up a bunch of them as well as fitting four wheel hydraulic brakes from a Nash Metropolitan to a Model T. He made a lot of after market parts for T's and a lot of Long Beach Model T Club members are still driving T's with his modifications on them and they still work. Orville passed away in 1994.
Metro brakes on a famous Speedster
We have seen them from $300-900 at swap meets.
Frank, I have heard that Orville made the C-4 transmission conversion that we are running on the Gemsa engines.
The late Ralph Ricks RIP was a guru with these and drove his speedster several times in the Great Race I have driven his T and really liked the shifting cause you just like the old days just let up on the gas lever to shift to O/D,
Erik, It could be but I don't think Larue Thomas worked with Orville. Larue owned a big Cadillac dealership in an eight story building with over 100 collector cars in it and had a full staff of mechanics on hand at all times.
Funny, Derrick, I was just thinking of those a couple of days ago.
I've been thinking about them since they came here. =P They practically stare at me every time I walk out my front door. lol
That type of B-W overdrive was used on every brand of car in the 1940's to 1960's. Ford offered it in F series trucks as late as 1969 behind the three speed manual transmission.
You have to add accessory wheel brakes because the BW OD has a forward freewheeling feature that makes Model t brake pedal useless.
I sold one at Chickasha for $300 a few years ago.
You can manually ground the governor and you get a hill holder like Studebaker offered. They offered a switch that did that called "Gainamatic". It sold for $10.00. I simply bought a toggle switch for my 51 Ford Coupe. G.M. also put the B.W. overdrive in their six cylinder cars.
GM also put BW overdrives in V8 Chevys 55 to 57, Very nice. Dave in Bellingham,WA
I have what is supposed to be a BW overdrive on a 1930 Model A Phaeton. However, when using the overdrive I can't go any faster than 45 mph. The car actually performs much better when not using the overdrive. Anyone knowing how to modify the governor please let me know.